Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by Arapiles

So the Age snuck into intensive care and interviewed him ....

Actually the journalist didn’t claim she had to sneak in but rather visited him in ICU to interviewed him.

My understanding is prior to the lockdown that started last night, hospitals were still accepting visitors to ICU but under strict controls.

But by rights - the journalist should now be in self-isolation as well.

Originally Posted by BradC

In both the nebuliser and the spacer, where do you think the exhaled aerosols go?

In the spacer - no-where, it's just exhaled air, same as if I'm breathing without it.

With the nebuliser, once you've finished you turn it off, so it shouldn't be spraying contaminated but micro-droplets all over ....

Asthma drug may reduce risk of severe Covid if taken early – study | Coronavirus | The Guardian


This isn't Ventolin (which lots of non-asthmatics stocked up on a year ago), it's the drug marketed as Pulmicort which prevents asthma attacks rather than treats them.

As a protest slogan goes this is actually clever....



Seems to be lots of anger for the lockdown but I actually think the real question is “why wasn’t it called earlier?” - especially when we had cases in the community and multiple exposure sites. This time we didn’t even have any localised lockdowns.

A quick short lockdown called earlier may have been as effective as we saw with Adelaide and Perth.

Time for a uniform Australia wide approach which improves with each event.

Originally Posted by Arapiles

In the spacer - no-where, it's just exhaled air, same as if I'm breathing without it.

With the nebuliser, once you've finished you turn it off, so it shouldn't be spraying contaminated but micro-droplets all over ....

But there's the thing. It's your exhaled air that contains masses of aerosols, and in both cases the exhaled air leaves via the exhaust valve. So out into the room.
It's not as bad with the spacer, because the volume of inhaled droplets is far less than with a nebuliser, but it's still there.

In theory, the nebuliser may help distribute the exhaled droplets because while you are exhaling, 100% of the output of the nebuliser leaves via the exhaust valve, so it increases the volume and dilutes the contaminated droplets, pushing them further than they would be if naturally exhaled.

The other thing is the extra liquid volume inhaled will help dislodge droplets inside the lungs, so exacerbate the amount of contaminated liquid exhaled.

All that assumes there is no coughing while on the nebuliser, because that's going to make it worse again.

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Expect the Govt to now say the person is lying......not the first time.

And now because of this, new overseas arrivals have the pleasure of full bag searches as if they are smuggling in contraband.

Ha Ha , how accurate you are.... The boss of the quarantine effort said that they cant find any evidence the patient declared that he had a nebuliser but they aren't calling him a liar and he's done nothing wrong. That's after the premier tossed the Covid response lady under the bus to answer it

Hotel quarantine chief Emma Cassar says returned traveller did not declare nebuliser

Regards,
Tote

why are we allowed to call mutated strains by the country they were discovered in, but strain zero we cant?


why are overseas uni students getting flights to aust over aust citizens wanting to come home?

Originally Posted by Tote

Ha Ha , how accurate you are.... The boss of the quarantine effort said that they cant find any evidence the patient declared that he had a nebuliser but they aren't calling him a liar and he's done nothing wrong. That's after the premier tossed the Covid response lady under the bus to answer it

Hotel quarantine chief Emma Cassar says returned traveller did not declare nebuliser

Regards,
Tote

Time to issue Duplicate signed Permit Cards authorising, or not, their use.



Oh hang on a tick, they would have thought of that wouldn't they? Yeah roight.