Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Therein lies the problem Bob. Those people came to this country, supposedly to escape such fears. When they come here they should leave their fears and preduces behind or they are only going to build a society emulating the trouble and violence from where they came.

It's a rocky road, Ian, getting into the depths of a very complex subject. It will take 2 or 3 generations to even get close to the nirvana you suggest, and some fears stay with you for life. To me, the knee jerk reaction of the NSW government [which I think it is] can only widen the divide that already exists in today's Australian society. It's human nature to look around & think " they didn't do this to the Northern beaches, or Bondi ", and what appears to be the almost complete lack of consultation or clear explanation only acerbates the situation. When people are bought along for the ride, have a clear feeling of belonging , and are not marginalised , only then can you have the outcome the NSW government desires. Treat people differently to the mainstream, have little or no consultation [ with community leaders] , no clear explanation of what is required , you get the outcome the NSW government has. Just my thoughts.

Originally Posted by 4bee

I guessed as much, & the Comm. Govt endorsing ads for this Covid business on TV doesn't help if they are only in the English Language. There has to more of this in their own languages to get through.

Indoors has been saying this since Day 1 for those areas, & we don't even live there, & their own ethnic GP's can't seem to get the VAX message through to them in person. They go to the local Mosque & get their heads filled with crap from other pagan disbelieving folk.

They are familiar with a lifestyle with getting out & about & socialising with their own kind & they move from house to house to house a in different areas to satisfy that. That can't be a good thing.

I think this is it Des. A failure to communicate.

Cool Hand Luke (1967) - The Captain's speech " What we've got here is failure to communicate" - Bing video

Originally Posted by superquag

Problem can be in.... discerning exactly 'What?' is real and/or Disinformation. a.k.a. "Censorship" by the Powers That Be.


Doctor claims Ivermectin triple therapy is 'amazingly effective' in treating COVID-19

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Some of us make an effort to work out what is real and what is disinformation.
There are tools you can use to help you.
For example the source you linked to is one that should not be taken as 100% trustworthy.
Sky News Australia - Media Bias/Fact Check
While that assessment might not be sufficient reason to dismiss what it says, there is certainly a need to look further to see if any more reliable sources support the claims.
It is obvious that some people are posting claims and links without making any effort to check the veracity of the claims. That need to stop.
It is possible to get some idea about what is real and what is not, but you need to make the effort to distinguish between the two.

The man who travelled to Byron bay whilst infectious has been arrested. Bathurst jail has been locked down because of a positive test by an inmate.

Byron traveller charged, jail sent into lockdown (thenewdaily.com.au)

Originally Posted by 4bee

The only reason I can think for their presence is to add a bit of muscle in case some folk get a strop on. A bit of "intimidation" it may be, but as they are dealing with some descendants of Oz's first convicts, maybe it is an in grown thing but I am not aware of other states using Army but shirley "they" must have a good reason. I wouldn't have a problem with a Copper & a Digger standing in the background if they knocked on my door but then I am a law abiding Citizen & wouldn't throw a punch at a Copper anyway. Call me a wuss if you like. I have had a couple[ of parking stickers but I doubt that would inflame them.
I just wish I knew what it was is all, not that their presence bothers me. Maybe it was an over reaction & they can't be seen to reverse the decision to use them?


Has Army been asked the reason?

Are the residents in the above affected areas prone to "sorting out the bloody coppers"

Could be as simple as that you know.

Wording of Defence press release for information. It pretty much explains everything....



Defence personnel to assist NSW Police and civilian authorities with COVID-19 outbreak
31 July 2021

On 29 July 2021, Defence received a request from Emergency Management Australia on behalf of the New South Wales (NSW) State Emergency Operations Centre, to provide Australian Defence Force (ADF) personnel to support the NSW Police with their response to the COVID-19 situation in Greater Sydney.

Brigadier Michael Garraway, Commander of Task Force 629, said the ADF would deploy up to 300 Defence personnel in the coming days to assist NSW authorities, serving the community.

“Defence members will commence deploying today to undertake training over the weekend and start working under the direction of NSW Police,” said Brigadier Garraway.

“Our tasks will include assisting NSW police with conducting isolation and welfare checks, supporting NSW police presence patrols, transportation support, and logistics assistance.

“This will be in addition to approximately 250 Australian Defence Force personnel who are already supporting state authorities in New South Wales, with tasks such as quarantine compliance management at hotels and airports.

“Our people are there in support of the NSW Police and civilian authorities, and to serve the community” said Brigadier Garraway.

ADF support to the civil community is guided by the Australian constitution. ADF personnel supporting the COVID outbreak in NSW are not authorised as law enforcement officers, nor are they able to enforce health orders.

“Our role is to assist New South Wales authorities do the important work they need to do in order to keep our communities safe,” said Brigadier Garraway.

The ADF has worked closely with NSW and Federal authorities to support the community, including through bushfires and floods. Defence continues to work closely with these authorities to ensure Defence resources are allocated efficiently.




I would imagine that for OH&S reasons it would be undesirable to send a single policeman on doorknock duties.

Regards,
Tote

Originally Posted by Tote

Wording of Defence press release for information. It pretty much explains everything....



Defence personnel to assist NSW Police and civilian authorities with COVID-19 outbreak
31 July 2021

On 29 July 2021, Defence received a request from Emergency Management Australia on behalf of the New South Wales (NSW) State Emergency Operations Centre, to provide Australian Defence Force (ADF) personnel to support the NSW Police with their response to the COVID-19 situation in Greater Sydney.

Brigadier Michael Garraway, Commander of Task Force 629, said the ADF would deploy up to 300 Defence personnel in the coming days to assist NSW authorities, serving the community.

“Defence members will commence deploying today to undertake training over the weekend and start working under the direction of NSW Police,” said Brigadier Garraway.

“Our tasks will include assisting NSW police with conducting isolation and welfare checks, supporting NSW police presence patrols, transportation support, and logistics assistance.

“This will be in addition to approximately 250 Australian Defence Force personnel who are already supporting state authorities in New South Wales, with tasks such as quarantine compliance management at hotels and airports.

“Our people are there in support of the NSW Police and civilian authorities, and to serve the community” said Brigadier Garraway.

ADF support to the civil community is guided by the Australian constitution. ADF personnel supporting the COVID outbreak in NSW are not authorised as law enforcement officers, nor are they able to enforce health orders.

“Our role is to assist New South Wales authorities do the important work they need to do in order to keep our communities safe,” said Brigadier Garraway.

The ADF has worked closely with NSW and Federal authorities to support the community, including through bushfires and floods. Defence continues to work closely with these authorities to ensure Defence resources are allocated efficiently.




I would imagine that for OH&S reasons it would be undesirable to send a single policeman on doorknock duties.

Regards,
Tote

Yes, beautiful spin.

Originally Posted by bob10

Yes, beautiful spin.

So now the ADF is creating spin to suit the State government political agenda? Maybe an adjustment of the foil hat is in order......
Link to the press release on the Defence site is posted above in post 12892

Regards,
Tote

For those concerned about the impact of ADF supporting the covid effort in Sydney its about to get far stricter.

More ADF
More police
Redrafting of restrictions to suit the police commissioners agenda so that more people can be prosecuted
Single bubble revision
Only a single residence ( not sure how it is currently possible to go to your becah house unless you live within 10K m of it but anyway)

Live Breaking News: NSW lockdown updates and Covid case numbers, death toll

Regards,
Tote