Thread: Nearly eight-in-10 want city 4WD ban

Originally Posted by solmanic

How does that fit in with the "ban 4WDs in the city" argument? I think it has more to do with the "make any old **** up to stir up interest in a non-existent story and sell advertising space" idea.

So you're suggesting that News Ltd and Fox News is all fair and balanced reportage? I hardly think so.

Although on the "sell anything I can take out of context and hype up" we agree.

However I still ask "would you take any information you received from a News Ltd source, as factual and un-biased"?

Diana

Originally Posted by spudboy

Gawd

I'd like to ban city Sunday drivers from coming out into the country and getting in my way. They have no idea how to drive out in the country and should be BANNED, I say.

How much chance have I got - bugger all.

I'm with you .
City drivers in the country are the main cause of accidents in our area.
They have no idea.
Then we have foreign drivers on top of that who have absolutely no respect for our road rules.

Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

I think the ideal would be to ban ALL vehicles from CBD's

Provide outer city parking, upgrade public transport into the city from outer suburbs, encourage pushbikes (rental or free to use council provided) and walking, and get the people using their legs again

So would that include plumbers, electricians, furniture vans, courier vans, taxi's and buses?

I can just see a plumber riding a pushie, towing a new hot water service and carrying his tool kit from the outer suburbs. Although I think you weren't including all those items, but it still leaves the 4WD's the tradies may be using in the city.

Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

I think the ideal would be to ban ALL vehicles from CBD's

Provide outer city parking, upgrade public transport into the city from outer suburbs, encourage pushbikes (rental or free to use council provided) and walking, and get the people using their legs again

And then there will be a debate about the rights of parents to use those monster all-terrain strollers on the footpaths intimidating and obstructing the ordinary pedestrian.

Originally Posted by rocket scientist

I'm with you .
City drivers in the country are the main cause of accidents in our area.
They have no idea.
Then we have foreign drivers on top of that who have absolutely no respect for our road rules.

I think the word you are looking for is oblivious! More to the point they are more concentrated in the city, last night I was returning from Windsor to my home coming up to the Richmond Rd right turn onto the M7 I observed a people-mover drive up to the intersection without hesitating and against the red arrow, turned across the oncoming traffic and up the on-ramp then onto the M7 no blinkers at any time and into the RH (fast) lane and sat at 80 KPH with car after car having to pass on the LHS.

This person was most definitely oblivious to everything that was happening outside their windows.

Diana

Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

What parent is going to lug a monster all-terrain stroller on a train into the city?

Perhaps a parent with twins or two kids close together.

The only way I can see it happening without the government being discrimitory against 4wd owners is to ban all vehicles over a certain weight, then the question will be how will they service the city without trucks? Perhaps they can bring back the horse and cart to collect garbage.

Originally Posted by seano87

So because I don't live in an inner-city environment, I deserve to pay more for rego simply because for me to do something simple like drive to the shops it happens to be up to a 50km round trip??

Basing it on km driven in any way is the complete opposite to fair IMO.

Seano

I don't see how you can say it is not fair. Someone had to build the 50Km of road that you use. Every time you use it, you wear it out a little bit. It needs maintenance (grading, road markers, signs, whatever) to keep it safe.

It may be that you get a small engined car to drive to the shops, which will be significantly cheaper to run than a Landie, and save the 4x4 for when you need it. It would cause a lot of people to pay more attention to the MPG their car gets, and this would reduce Australia's import burden over time.

If there is no Rego and CTP, then it becomes much more feasable to have a cheap run around in addition to your main car, although from a resources point of view (and capital tied up in vehicles) this does seem rather wasteful.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

So you're suggesting that News Ltd and Fox News is all fair and balanced reportage?

No.

I was just suggesting that your comment seemed at odds with News Ltd's right-wing agenda since, according to the media, aren't all 4WD owners supposed to be right-wing, redneck, racist yobbos or rich, stuck-up, snobs with an inferiority complex? ie. the kind of people who read and listen to News Ltd & Fox?