Thread: Global warming hits Perth

Originally Posted by willem

If they made it a pipeline, like the Kalgoorlie pipeline, they would really have something. If CY O'Connor could do it 100 years ago, why can't we do it now? That would be project that would transform Western Australia and make it the powerhouse state of the nation.

Willem

1- we ARE the powerhouse state. WA keeps the rest of the country supported with all the mining right across the state. We just get bugger all back from the federal government from all the export dollars.

2- Even if they did build a pipeline it would be plagued by strikes, budget blowouts, goverment sidestepping on every issue and the end result would be cheaper to drink and bath in petrol than pay the final cost of the water.

Too many would be interested in lining their own pockets than the common goal of the states water future.

Think we have a better chance doing an Indian raindance!
Anyone know the steps???

cheers

Andrew

Originally Posted by willem

If they made it a pipeline, like the Kalgoorlie pipeline, they would really have something. If CY O'Connor could do it 100 years ago, why can't we do it now?
Willem

William ...
O'Conner's plan was a project that had the potential to bankrupt the State!

There have been quotes of a cost of 10 billion dollars to complete such a ambitious project .... A lot of money?? Not really, especially when you find out that Ruddy, is willing to spend that amount on a new internet line.

Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE

1- we ARE the powerhouse state.

Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE

2- Even if they did build a pipeline it would be plagued by strikes, budget blowouts, goverment sidestepping on every issue

.... The good ol days ....

Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE

1- we ARE the powerhouse state. WA keeps the rest of the country supported with all the mining right across the state. We just get bugger all back from the federal government from all the export dollars.

2- Even if they did build a pipeline it would be plagued by strikes, budget blowouts, goverment sidestepping on every issue and the end result would be cheaper to drink and bath in petrol than pay the final cost of the water.

Too many would be interested in lining their own pockets than the common goal of the states water future.

Think we have a better chance doing an Indian raindance!
Anyone know the steps???

cheers

Andrew

What a load of manure!

How much coal does WA export? Now consider how much is exported from NSW and Queensland. If WA is supporting the rest of the country how come WA gets more of the GST back than it paid and NSW and Vic get around 14% less back than they paid in.

Get real, it's all swings and roundabouts, you export more iron-ore and gas while we export more coal and Victoria saves the nation from importing billions more gallons of crude oil.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

What a load of manure!

How much coal does WA export? Now consider how much is exported from NSW and Queensland. If WA is supporting the rest of the country how come WA gets more of the GST back than it paid and NSW and Vic get around 14% less back than they paid in.

Get real, it's all swings and roundabouts, you export more iron-ore and gas while we export more coal and Victoria saves the nation from importing billions more gallons of crude oil.

WA has the highest gross state product on a per capita basis, but on a state by state basis it is 4th.

I recall that the entire AU mining industry only accounts for ~7% of employment and ~20% of GDP.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

What a load of manure!

How much coal does WA export? Now consider how much is exported from NSW and Queensland. If WA is supporting the rest of the country how come WA gets more of the GST back than it paid and NSW and Vic get around 14% less back than they paid in.

Get real, it's all swings and roundabouts, you export more iron-ore and gas while we export more coal and Victoria saves the nation from importing billions more gallons of crude oil.

X2 This is the mentality that I struck when I was over there for 12 months.New mines are still opening here in Queensland..one by Gina Rinehart ( a sandgroper) the new Queensland gas fields and subsequent billion dollars contracts are on offer and signed and sealed.
Mate this is Australia and the states and territories make it one nation and the exports from all are for "Australia's" benefit.The "siege" mentality of some West Australians needs to be changed as all of us benefit from each states contribution

Originally Posted by isuzurover

WA has the highest gross state product on a per capita basis, but on a state by state basis it is 4th.

I recall that the entire AU mining industry only accounts for ~7% of employment and ~20% of GDP.

Ben

Yep, that's what I mean, each state puts in some aspect of the nations wealth, yes currently mining is a big part of that but during the Global meltdown, income from mining ore dropped significantly while mining of coal and gas dropped far less and grains from all states continued to be exported.

People who work in the mining industry in one state, often reside in other states or at least that is where their family reside.

This "our state carries the nation" is a lot of empty political rhetoric which has it's only consequence of dividing the nation.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

This "our state carries the nation" is a lot of empty political rhetoric which has it's only consequence of dividing the nation.

I agree. I also recall that AU earns far more from primary production exports than mining exports.

Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE

1- we ARE the powerhouse state. WA keeps the rest of the country supported with all the mining right across the state. We just get bugger all back from the federal government from all the export dollars.

No its not - not like California is the powerhouse state of the US. WA has the potential to be the powerhouse state ... but it will never get there just on mining dollars.

Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE

2- Even if they did build a pipeline it would be plagued by strikes, budget blowouts, goverment sidestepping on every issue and the end result would be cheaper to drink and bath in petrol than pay the final cost of the water.

Too many would be interested in lining their own pockets than the common goal of the states water future.

This is the kind of logic that almost defeated O'Connor. The project was finished, even after O'Connor took his own life, because it was a visionary response to a necessity. Where would WA be without the Kalgoorlie pipeline. Kalgoorlie wouldn't be more than a small town, that's for sure!

Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE

Think we have a better chance doing an Indian raindance!
Anyone know the steps???

cheers

Andrew

WA won't get to be a powerhouse state by doing rain dances. Visionaries are needed, who have the guts and the grunt to get the job done, despite the critics. CY O'Connor was a visionary, and so was John Forrest who was premier at the time. The small men who so relentlessly attacked O'Connor that he took his own life were not.

I reckon O'Connor and Forrest were great men, and I throw my hat in with guys like that, and not with the critics.

Willem