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    Dunlop or Hitachi compressors

    Hello All
    i did the full service on the original Hitachi compressor in my 2011 D4 hoping it would fix the issue with the air suspension. the issue i am getting it is taking a long time to raise the car and the compressor is running alot. the service kit didn't fix the issue so i am thinking of replacing the compressor. The AMK brands without delivery is over $1400.00 dollars where as a Hitachi branded compressor is just over 550 dollars is the AMK worth nearly 3 times the amount over the Hitachi brand. i do know the AMK is better but 3 time better it seams alot of money. but the old adage a poor man pays twice. Do i bight the bullet and pay the 1400 plus dollars for the AMk or will the Hitarchi one do the job for the next 8 years like the last one has. any advise from guys who have either brands replaced would be helpful.
    cheers Adam
    2010 D4 3litre twin turbo brand new motor 5km old on a 100,000km car. Kaymar rear bar, ARB front bar, Hannibal roof rack, Hella Predator Spot lights, long rand fuel tank, Traxide battery management. touring weapon.

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    When you done the compressor rebuild did you replace the plastic cap that the 2 airlines come out of on the top. From what i could see with mine and from reading many other threads , its the cap that is the main culprit most of the time as it develops hair line cracks between the 2 airline fittings. Some people have had success covering the cap in an epoxy glue like 5min araldite but i wasnt as lucky so needed to get a new cap after having done the initial rebuild.

    I bought a hitachi off another member as it was a straight bolt in and the original lasted 9 years , and was still operating except the leaking cap caused the same issue you have.

    Have you tried spraying soapy water on the compressor and fitting when its running to see whare the air is leaking from ? this would be my first option as you possibly could have a leak elsewhere , altho it sounds unlikely.

    Cheers Ean

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    hey Ean i too read that but i didn't replace it as i had already purchased the the service kit without the cap. i was going to jump under the car tonight and spay soapy water and see if there are any bubbles.
    so you still have the Hitachi compressor or did you go to a AMK model.
    2010 D4 3litre twin turbo brand new motor 5km old on a 100,000km car. Kaymar rear bar, ARB front bar, Hannibal roof rack, Hella Predator Spot lights, long rand fuel tank, Traxide battery management. touring weapon.

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    From what i have read the AMK doesnt seem to last as long as the hitachi,i'm still on the original at 11+ years and 175k so its doing well.
    Unless the motor is burnt out you should be able to rebuild it to bring it back close to new, do you have the error codes for the current fault ?
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    I stayed with the hitachi as 1 was selling at the time on the forum and i was about to do a trip so i.purchased that incase my new cap didnt arrive in time - which it didnt. I replaced the cap when i returned and fitted the old compressor which hasnt leaked since.

    I know the AMK unit is meant to be the bee knees but i could justify the extra cost on a 9 yr old car that the original lasted 9 yrs and as it turns out is still going after a rebuild. Also check where the hoses go into the fittings , i ended up having to cut 1 of my hoses so just got some connectors and hose from enzed for less than $10.

    Cheers Ean

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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    From what i have read the AMK doesnt seem to last as long as the hitachi,i'm still on the original at 11+ years and 175k so its doing well.
    Unless the motor is burnt out you should be able to rebuild it to bring it back close to new, do you have the error codes for the current fault ?
    i can get the code and good to her about the longevity of the Hitachi compressors as i mentioned the first one has been OK for the last 8 years.
    2010 D4 3litre twin turbo brand new motor 5km old on a 100,000km car. Kaymar rear bar, ARB front bar, Hannibal roof rack, Hella Predator Spot lights, long rand fuel tank, Traxide battery management. touring weapon.

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    So, can you still buy the Hitachi genuine original or is it Dunlop brand after market now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ean Austral View Post
    I stayed with the hitachi as 1 was selling at the time on the forum and i was about to do a trip so i.purchased that incase my new cap didnt arrive in time - which it didnt. I replaced the cap when i returned and fitted the old compressor which hasnt leaked since.

    I know the AMK unit is meant to be the bee knees but i could justify the extra cost on a 9 yr old car that the original lasted 9 yrs and as it turns out is still going after a rebuild. Also check where the hoses go into the fittings , i ended up having to cut 1 of my hoses so just got some connectors and hose from enzed for less than $10.

    Cheers Ean
    Ean
    i will spray all around the hoses and compressor to see if there are any leaks and if there is try to fix them if that doesn't work i can get a Hitachi compressor from LR center in the UK. thanks for the ideas to problem solve this my indy wanted to charge me $2500 for a AMK compressor change over.
    cheers Adam
    2010 D4 3litre twin turbo brand new motor 5km old on a 100,000km car. Kaymar rear bar, ARB front bar, Hannibal roof rack, Hella Predator Spot lights, long rand fuel tank, Traxide battery management. touring weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ean Austral View Post
    I stayed with the hitachi as 1 was selling at the time on the forum and i was about to do a trip so i.purchased that incase my new cap didnt arrive in time - which it didnt. I replaced the cap when i returned and fitted the old compressor which hasnt leaked since.

    I know the AMK unit is meant to be the bee knees but i could justify the extra cost on a 9 yr old car that the original lasted 9 yrs and as it turns out is still going after a rebuild. Also check where the hoses go into the fittings , i ended up having to cut 1 of my hoses so just got some connectors and hose from enzed for less than $10.

    Cheers Ean
    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    So, can you still buy the Hitachi genuine original or is it Dunlop brand after market now?
    i believe it is Hitachi branded see link to the item you may be able to tell me if this a actual Hitachi it looks the same
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    LR025111 - Only PS300 plus VAT - Range Rover L322 Air Compressor for Suspension | LR Parts
    2010 D4 3litre twin turbo brand new motor 5km old on a 100,000km car. Kaymar rear bar, ARB front bar, Hannibal roof rack, Hella Predator Spot lights, long rand fuel tank, Traxide battery management. touring weapon.

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    You will not get a genuine Hitachi compressor for $550 - they are knock offs and usually termed "Hitachi Type".

    This is typical pricing of the knock-offs and the genuine item LR023964 | Air Suspension Compressor - Ds3 RRS - Land Rover Part LR023964
    https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-Rover.../dp/B014LCNIA6


    You can buy an "AMK Type" compressor (a knock-off) for not much more.


    The Hitachi is fully rebuildable - what did you replace.

    You need to do the dessicant, the filters etc which I assume you have done.

    As Ean said you need to replace the cap TOOGOO for Land Rover Discovery 3 4 Range Rover Sport Air Compressor Dryer End Cap Hitachi: Amazon.com.au: Automotive

    You need to replace the piston ring and guide.

    You need to replace the exhaust valve as this causes internal air leaks out past the exhaust valve and no amount of squirting with soapy water will detect this.
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