Thread: D4 Purchase

Originally Posted by Eric SDV6SE

The ad also says TDV6 and the spec says twin turbo v6, if it's a MY13 it should be an SDV6 to be twin turbo me thinks. Either way the car still looks well looked after.

Can the picture be trusted?

Nope. Car dealer can’t be trusted either. Too many questions. This car is for someone else I think.

I went for a MY12 D4 TDV6 as it is the very last year of D4’s with the 2.7 TDV6 motor. As mentioned above it’s a slightly more simpler motor and easier to source replacements for given its long run in the D3 and Ford Territory aswell - compared to the 3L variant which has been around for less and in a few different versions. After a BAS remap there is no shortage of power and torque even with the 6 speed transmission. We test drove a 3L TDV6 (the base model with lower power output) with the 8 speed prior and that wasn’t a huge amount in it in my opinion. If your chasing power then your silly not to go the V8 petrol option as it comes with the full suite of luxury features aswell and are well priced used compared to their brand new purchase price.

Originally Posted by Dagilmo

Having recently moved from a 2.7 TDV6 (2005) into a 3.0 SDV6 with the 8 speed, they really are chalk and cheese. I loved my D3 but the new car is a whole different experience.

Part of that will likely be due to D3 vs D4 changes too.

Originally Posted by PerthDisco

About $1,000 including change to steel pan. Covered in volumes on this forum - see the stickies for starters

You might want to shop around for your parts in future. I did mine for half of that including genuine ZF fluid and changing the mechatronic seal.

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Not forgetting the 2010-2011 were full output 3.0L TDV6. At introduction of the term SDV6 the 3.0L TDV6 became the downrated version. Simple hey!

To be clear, when there was a 2.7 and 3.0L in the D4 lineup, the 3.0L was full power. When they dropped the 2.7L they introduced the term SDV6 which is when two power variants of the 3.0L came to be, with the TDV6 being the lower. This means you can buy an early full power model.

Yes, to perhaps put it simpler though:
Prior to MY13 you had 2.7 TDV6 at 140kw/440Nm and 3.0L TDV6 at 180kw/600Nm. These had the six speed transmissions.
MY13 on to end of D4 in MY16, you had two 3L TD variants, what was now called the TDV6, was a low power base spec at 155kw/520Nm and what essentially was previously called the 3L TDV6 now became SDV6 which had a minor power increase of 3kw up to 180kw/600Nm (no torque increase). These had the 8 speed transmissions.
Concurrently there were petrol options of a Jaguar V8 with six speed transmissions putting out around 250kw up to MY14 replaced with a SCV6 supercharged intercooled V6 petrol motor putting out 250kw/450Nm mated to 8 speed.

Originally Posted by LRD414

Are you sure re 8 speed? As I understand it 8 speed first came in during 2013.

I believe it was released in MY13 so very very late 2012 models may have had it.

Originally Posted by John_D2

I can only go on what they’ve said. I’m still learning about D4’s. Negotiated a cheaper price tho.

Originally Posted by John_D2

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...AG-AD-17351970

The pictures confirm that it is a 6 speed transmission as it has the conventional shifter stalk not the round knob that the 8 speeds use.

I think we might take a 3.0 and a 2.7 for a test drive. Like I said earlier, there’s a local 2010 2.7 with 85000k on it which I should be able to get for $30k or less.

I’m a steady driver, I’m not looking at breaking land speed records. Just the speed limit is all I’m after. I’m happy with the TD5 power but a bit more would be good.

Remapped 2000td5, Allisport IC, silicon hoses, EGR removed.

I had an o8 2.7 d3. Tow a 3t+ van. Had Roo systems remap. For towing. Fantastic. 10.5 kts/100klms ample power and torque. Great car

Originally Posted by PerthDisco

There is no doubt that both the 2.7 and 3.0 both can both randomly self destruct but at least you can replace the 2.7 with a Ford Territory engine at better price. Seems like no ones heard of Territory 2.7s destructing so maybe at 2010 you are in that club.

Hi folks,
Similar to John_D2 I am looking to buy an MY11-13 D4.
Strictly from the perspective of spun bearings, how would you guys rate the MY11-12 TDV2.7 vs an MY13 TDV3.0?
Is the consensus that the 2.7 from these MY is less prone, if not immune (no known problem)?
Are the chances for spun bearings to occur on the TDV3.0 diminishing with mileage? I mean if it was indeed a random assembly line issue, is the fact that a motor passed the 150K km mark W/O an issue a proof that it does not belong to the defective bunch?
Thank you,
Micha

Disco3.co.uk/General has lots of discussion and debate.

There’s a survey but of 43000 possible members 200 odd did the survey of which 8% had suffered failure (both 2.7 and 3.0).

So while I pray it never happens and occurrences happen regardless of age km or model I think chances are super slim out of total population

I was wondering if it’s more a case of you only ever hear of the people who had the issue, you never hear from those who’ve had no problems. Sadly bad news is more newsworthy.