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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    is this to upgrade Xenons?

    I upgraded my povo halogens and the Stedi projectors had a small fan in the back of them for cooling - they didn't have the big long ribbon headsink. The only troublesome part was securing the shunt so it didn't bump around.

    This was them STEDIā„¢ | HIR2 (9012) Project LED Headlight Conversion Kit

    Yeah I don't know those ones... I thought the high infill and high/low beam were both H7... are you happy with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Nope. D4 headlight questions

    Close though. I carefully folded my heat sinks so they fan out between the reflector housing and back body
    Yeah I felt like I was squashing them more than spreading them, so went the gentle scrunch rather than the fold! :-P
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    Please don't replace Low beams with anything other than a direct like for like replacement. High beams you can do whatever you like.
    The halogens don't have a separate high and low beam globe - instead there's a shutter that opens for high beams. So options are limited.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart02 View Post
    Yeah I don't know those ones... I thought the high infill and high/low beam were both H7... are you happy with them?
    They are absolutely better than the original halogen globes that were dull and yellow. but a bit fiddly to rotate to the correct orientation and as far as I can tell no option to adjust the angle. It's also a pain because you have to fit them and the whole headlight, test, pull everything out again, and repeat until you're happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    The halogens don't have a separate high and low beam globe - instead there's a shutter that opens for high beams. So options are limited.
    That is not correct - it is the basic Bi-Xenons that use the shutter.

    With halogens, low beam is a fixed globe in the outer light and high beam is a fixed globe in the inner light. On the Bi Xenons this fixed halogen globe in the inner light comes on with the BiXenons when high beam is selected and is termed an "in fill" light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    That is not correct - it is the basic Bi-Xenons that use the shutter.

    With halogens, low beam is a fixed globe in the outer light and high beam is a fixed globe in the inner light. On the Bi Xenons this fixed halogen globe in the inner light comes on with the BiXenons when high beam is selected and is termed an "in fill" light.
    considering I just replaced mine I can say with absolute certainty that it is in fact correct

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    L4.jpg
    A: is high and low beams. I can hear, and when I was changing the globes *see* the shutter open and close with the change from high and low beam
    B: is the parker light and poverty driving light when in 'auto'. it is a dual filament (dual brightness) globe per below that only comes on when parkers are on or when driving lights are turned on. It actually dims when changing from parkers to low beams
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    L8.jpg L5.jpg

    I have actually since replaced the parkers/driving lights globes with a dual brightness LED but it's a little too bright IHMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    L4.jpg
    A: is high and low beams. I can hear, and when I was changing the globes *see* the shutter open and close with the change from high and low beam

    L5.jpg
    Those (A) lamps look like Xenon (HID) to me rather than Halogen. Are you sure they're Halogen behind the shutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    Those (A) lamps look like Xenon (HID) to me rather than Halogen. Are you sure they're Halogen behind the shutter.
    No ballast on the underside of the headlight so yes. definitely halogen.

    L10.jpg

    edit: in the picture i've upgraded to the stedi LEDs. They're a lot whiter than the original halogens.
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    I've still got the original globes in a drawer if you want to see them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    I've still got the original globes in a drawer if you want to see them
    All good. I found some references to the peculiar specific Philips lamps in those headlamps. They're an odd configuration that was generally used with a shutter for a Xenon lamp, but in that specific unit they fitted a Halogen.

    I'd never seen it done before, and I couldn't figure it out from any of the stuff I could find on-line or the wiring diagram, thus my perplexed question.

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    Seems all odd to me - there is no point having a shutter on a quad headlamped halogen vehicle as halogens light up immediately so can be used in hi beam and flashers. Has someone had an issue with the Bi-Xenons and taken them out and put halogens in?

    With Bi-Xenons/HIDs the shutter is needed as the HIDS take too long to light up to use with Hi beam - hence the shutter as the HID globe is on all the time while the lights are on and the shutter moves to provide hi/lo beam and the halogen infill provides the flash function.

    On an all halogen fitted vehicle there is no need for a shutter as low beam is provided by the outer light and high beam provided by the inner light.

    I would be interested to hear from any other D3/D4/L320 owners who have shutters with halogen globes as originally fitted as I have not heard or seen this before - have been know to be wrong before.
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