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    Looks like its designed so the arm protects the bag if it grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB View Post
    That’s a big design change from previous EAS then, if the damper is separate to the air spring instead of being internal.

    Anti-sway bar on rear worries me for articulation.
    They could do a jeep and make then able to be disconnected from within the vehicle but I bet they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    They could do a jeep and make then able to be disconnected from within the vehicle but I bet they don't.

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    It's not hard, Nissan had a relatively simple mechanical disconnect on the rear of the GQ wagon 25 years ago.

    And the D2 ACE setup while a little more complicated works well too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB View Post
    That’s a big design change from previous EAS then, if the damper is separate to the air spring instead of being internal.

    Anti-sway bar on rear worries me for articulation.
    I really don't like the internal damper setup.
    It reduces volume of the bag, and potentially leads to overheating of the damper.

    Air springs are inherently rising rate, so increasing the bag volume reduces that, and you can then tailor the rate rise with the piston (the part the bag collapses over)

    The inherent rising rate is why gas/air springs have never seriously been used in race cars, even though they have a packaging and weight advantage over steel springs.
    Or to put it another way, they lose their packaging advantage when you increase the volume enough to reduce the rising rate to a manageable or linear level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    They could do a jeep and make then able to be disconnected from within the vehicle but I bet they don't.

    Cheers
    I bet they won't on the rear as it's not really needed if you set it up right.

    I have that system on my Range Rover classic disconnectable front and rear.

    If those Nurburgring pilots are running the same set up, by the looks of the body roll I don't think we will have a problem and the sway bars are very necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Looks like its designed so the arm protects the bag if it grounds.
    What do you mean here?

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    The arm runs across under everything above, so if it grounded it would be on the arm.

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    I also noticed its on a subframe by the looks so a 2, 4 or 6 inch lift (depending on where you live in the world) would no doubt be possible with no effect to the suspension. Won’t be retro...

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    On the last image
    Upper control arm looks super short
    Hence the heavy camber at full extension, image not quite straight on - but the wheel looks pretty close to parallel with spring piston not vertical to vehicle?

    Long Arm Kit perhaps eventually
    ARB acting on upper control arm?

    Damper as Rick says must be leading the bag, maybe to get bigger volume and stroke?

    Hard to guess rim size but they look 18ish but still “seems” to be some breathing space behind caliper on top photo????

    Does anyone not love the exhaust route?

    S
    '95 130 dual cab fender (gone to a better universe)
    '10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)

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    Quote Originally Posted by roverrescue View Post
    On the last image
    Upper control arm looks super short
    Hence the heavy camber at full extension, image not quite straight on - but the wheel looks pretty close to parallel with spring piston not vertical to vehicle?

    Long Arm Kit perhaps eventually
    ARB acting on upper control arm?

    Damper as Rick says must be leading the bag, maybe to get bigger volume and stroke?

    Hard to guess rim size but they look 18ish but still “seems” to be some breathing space behind caliper on top photo????

    Does anyone not love the exhaust route?

    S
    Yeah never liked the newer exhaust routing, but what other options are there?

    Maybe having some super thick metal pointing straight down in the middle to take the hit would be the go?

    Is it a problem with the new Land Rovers in extended mode?

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