Won’t be retro...

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

ive had a manual and i can confidently say a good modern auto has only 1 drawback, push starting. Having dual batterys + solar, this has never bothered me.

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It will bother you if your starter motor packs in. Usually happens shortly after a river crossing in the middle of no where. I had to push start mine at every stop from the tip of cape York down to Cairns! Thankfully it only needed a small nudge to get going.

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Originally Posted by scarry

What,you remember the old valiant,with the push buttons for the auto on the dash?

Hmm,maybe they could modernise it so it’s a touch pad[thumbsupbig]

No need for an actual gear lever at all......[bighmmm]

And the guessing continues[biggrin]

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Based on the leaked internal photo it's an almost certainty there will be a shifter.. and they wouldn't use the dial shifter on the Defender.. you need to be able to grab reverse and drive relatively quickly.

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Originally Posted by scarry

Actually some manual vehicles can’t be push started,don’t ask me why,cos I don’t know.

A mate has an Amarok,manual,and it can’t be push started.

Nothing wrong with an 8 speed tried and tested ZF,auto,which I bet the new Defender will have.

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News to me cheers

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Originally Posted by manic

It will bother you if your starter motor packs in. Usually happens shortly after a river crossing in the middle of no where. I had to push start mine at every stop from the tip of cape York down to Cairns! Thankfully it only needed a small nudge to get going.

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I have had a starter go once or twice a few hits of the hammer got it going. Usually after deep silty mud.

On that I'm guessing the mild hybrid, hybrid and full EV will not have a starter motor [emoji7]

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Agree based on that pic alone it would seem unlikely, remember that pic with the black burka style material over a defender partially showing the roof..its not clear but gutters could be visible..
On another note, my dealer said new defender has been seen by insiders with some type of front bullbar option. Maybe we will see that if they release tusk photos, surely you would need front protection to work with rhinos.

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This is on insty, i think its referred to as the burka defender spy photo [emoji6]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bdb16f3bda.jpg

Some more pics from insty, looks like Dubai.

Drifting a Defender, that can't be right [emoji6][emoji41]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f8803b51eb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d06127a0f5.jpg

Licorice hoops

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

So just to confirm it starts sloping when the seats start?

Can we get some feedback from Lee?

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Starts from the tailgate catch up to the rear of the middle row seats and as you can see the middle seats don't sit flat when folded down .
We also looked at removing the 3rd row head rests so the 3rd row foot area could be used for aux. batteries but as they are electric there are cables running thru them and no easy to reach connectors.
The D3/4 would have to have one of the best seating configurations available, a perfectly flat floor once seats are folded and locked down.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

This is on insty, i think its referred to as the burka defender spy photo [emoji6]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bdb16f3bda.jpg

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Bring on the Infidel version [bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Some more pics from insty, looks like Dubai.

Drifting a Defender, that can't be right [emoji6][emoji41]

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Actually, the last time I was up at the farm with the D4 we were doing circle-work in the paddocks.