Won’t be retro...

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Originally Posted by DI5CO

The VW Multivan has dash mounted gearshift and I think was available in manual. (Overseas anyway)

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Our multivan auto has this setup. What is annoying for me is that it is configured for LHD. So gear indicators are on the left of the gear stick. So you can’t easily see what gear you have selected. Also you tend to pull it to the right and accidentally into manual mode when selecting drive. Given U.S. and Euorope is defender,s target market how well it be configured for RHD?

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Your correct, however again notice my comments on when the weight is applied to the section that is raised I would say it will compress to a flat floor or pretty close?

When we camp our double blow up mattress actually has a higher section where our head goes.

I agree though completely flat is better some people I know even sleep without pillows for this reason.

Does anyone actually have any real world experience of sleeping in the back of a Discovery 5?

Maybe with certain versions of the defender being slightly more utilitarian if they use similar seats with less padding maybe they will fold 100% flat.

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Are you suggesting that I’m heavy? Lol

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Originally Posted by Trout

Our multivan auto has this setup. What is annoying for me is that it is configured for LHD. So gear indicators are on the left of the gear stick. So you can’t easily see what gear you have selected. Also you tend to pull it to the right and accidentally into manual mode when selecting drive. Given U.S. and Euorope is defender,s target market how well it be configured for RHD?

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LR still has pretty strong connections to Britain and it's owned by an Indian company. I think the RHD configuration is probably going to be just fine.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Isn't the floor the seats on the second and third row? I highly doubt the rear most load area is on any angle

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Well it is as i have stated, it slopes from the rear to the front. Lee Jackson has slept in his D5 and when i was at his house looking at storage/drawer options you would have to make wedges so that any drawer system will sit level.

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Originally Posted by TB

LR still has pretty strong connections to Britain and it's owned by an Indian company. I think the RHD configuration is probably going to be just fine.

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And the company HQ and design team are in the UK. I would be very surprised if it were not designed to be equally at home both LHD and RHD.

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Originally Posted by grey_ghost

Are you suggesting that I’m heavy? Lol

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Originally Posted by loanrangie

Well it is as i have stated, it slopes from the rear to the front. Lee Jackson has slept in his D5 and when i was at his house looking at storage/drawer options you would have to make wedges so that any drawer system will sit level.

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So just to confirm it starts sloping when the seats start?

Can we get some feedback from Lee?

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Maybe they got it right in the 1960s [emoji6][emoji41]

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What,you remember the old valiant,with the push buttons for the auto on the dash?

Hmm,maybe they could modernise it so it’s a touch pad[thumbsupbig]

No need for an actual gear lever at all......[bighmmm]

And the guessing continues[biggrin]

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

push starting.

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Actually some manual vehicles can’t be push started,don’t ask me why,cos I don’t know.

A mate has an Amarok,manual,and it can’t be push started.

Nothing wrong with an 8 speed tried and tested ZF,auto,which I bet the new Defender will have.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

And the company HQ and design team are in the UK. I would be very surprised if it were not designed to be equally at home both LHD and RHD.

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Yep. But I imagine they sell an awful lot of vw vans to RHD markets. It does not look like a hard fix but vw probably save a few dollars by not building two types of shifter. A multivan is not a cheap vehicle either. Let’s hope Land Rover does not don’t skimp.