Thread: Won’t be retro...

True mate, but my big Jeep with a big bench didn't have belts!
At least the Toyota Crown ute I learnt to drive on and flog, err, drive during my apprenticeship had belts that were cinched as tight as I could so I could explore the limits and often well beyond of understeer, oversteer (sometimes both at once!) And brake fade with some level of decorum.

And I like the idea of three across on a Deefer if it's a single cab, I reckon a few of you would remember the bucket for the driver and 1.5 bench that some utes (and one of my Jeeps) used to sport too.

In a HQ wagon, understeer is just normal motoring.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

In a HQ wagon, understeer is just normal motoring.

Particularly with the cross ply tyres that were the norm in those days...

The commercial range had them,but the passenger range may have started to change over to radials,my memory is fading.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

In a HQ wagon, understeer is just normal motoring.

Originally Posted by scarry

Particularly with the cross ply tyres that were the norm in those days...

The commercial range had them,but the passenger range may have started to change over to radials,my memory is fading.

Yep, it was the way the front end was setup.
The chief engineer at GMH back then was from the US and a big believer in chronic understeer for safety.
If the front end washed out the driver would back off.
Simple!

Dad had three HQ's, the Crown ute and his Jeep Wagoneer and he made sure the vans had radials from new. I think the ute had radians back then too, but eventually it became the apprentices bash and crash car.
I remember him climbing Mt Victoria in a series of lovely drifts in the Jeep as the BFG APL's struggled for grip in the wet.
I would've only been about 9 or 10, no wonder I I've spent most of my adult life exploring the limits of adhesion of rubber with that as an example!
There's almost nothing quite as much fun as setting a car up in a nice drift.

My Ute didnt understeer but it was well set up (at home) and of course was lighter in the rear end. Cheers

We had a 1975 XB falcon ute with 15CWT suspension from new. It had crossplies fitted from factory.

Regards,
Tote

Originally Posted by rick130

Yep, it was the way the front end was setup.
The chief engineer at GMH back then was from the US and a big believer in chronic understeer for safety.
If the front end washed out the driver would back off.
Simple!

Dad had three HQ's, the Crown ute and his Jeep Wagoneer and he made sure the vans had radials from new. I think the ute had radians back then too, but eventually it became the apprentices bash and crash car.
I remember him climbing Mt Victoria in a series of lovely drifts in the Jeep as the BFG APL's struggled for grip in the wet.
I would've only been about 9 or 10, no wonder I I've spent most of my adult life exploring the limits of adhesion of rubber with that as an example!
There's almost nothing quite as much fun as setting a car up in a nice drift.

My son in law rebuilt a Jeep Wagoneer a few years ago,..a very impressive machine IMHO...Pristine examples are worth big dollars in the States now.
Pickles

There was some talk on here about JLR not targeting or getting govt or commercial contracts anymore.

Well looks like the D5 is ticking some german Govt boxes

More then likely the commercial version on the D5 with goodies from SVO added.

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So with the unreleased defender already showing to be massively more rugged that a D5, it would seem there maybe quite a bit of commercial potential with the new Fender.