Thread: The New Defender

I’m not at all surprised by these prices. JLR see themselves as a premium brand (whatever that means) and were never going to price the new Defender down anywhere near the prices of the previous model (which was always a bargain IMO).

Similar pricing to Toyota:
A GXL Workmate wagon is $75000 and the base Defender has a lot more fruit.
A base 200 series is $85,000 and up from there.

Unfortunately $100k is the new norm for a fully equipped new 4x4 wagon.

A base model new Defender at $77,000 drive away may come to be seen as a bargain given all the tech, safety equip, etc.

Whether the new Defender reclaims market share will all be in the quality of the drive and its reliability over the next few years. It’s not the price.

One thing’s for sure, current prices of 2009-2016 Defenders are not going to fall.

Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

I’m not at all surprised by these prices. JLR see themselves as a premium brand (whatever that means) and were never going to price the new Defender down anywhere near the prices of the previous model (which was always a bargain IMO).

Similar pricing to Toyota.
A GXL Workmate wagon is $75000 and the Defender has a lot more fruit.
A base 200 series is $85,000 and up from there.

Unfortunately $100k is the new norm for a fully equipped new 4x4 wagon.

A base model new Defender at $77,000 drive away may come to be seen as a bargain given all the tech, safety equip, etc

One thing’s for sure, current prices of 2009-2016 Defenders are not going to fall.

Mate I can't see the asking price of a second hand stock 110 being maintained. Are they back to sensible sales now ? I wouldn't pay more than $35 For a sub 50k klm model of the last 2 years in which they were making them (in excellent condition). But I'm not the market.

Originally Posted by ozscott

Mate I can't see the asking price of a second hand stock 110 being maintained. Are they back to sensible sales now ? I wouldn't pay more than $35 For a sub 50k klm model of the last 2 years in which they were making them (in excellent condition). But I'm not the market.

No mate they’re still $50k+.

As I say, they were under priced new at $50k. In the current market they are still a bargain at $50k even with 100,000km on the clock.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

I thought the D5 was constant 4wd with optional low range - I didn't realise there was a 2wd version - who would buy that.

Blacktop tourers,certain commercial fleet buyers, city only buyers.

Originally Posted by scarry

So if you get Satin wrap over the metallic paint,that’s $7K......

Just glad I don’t mind appliance white

So you guys were right no 18” wheels for petrol.

True, thats not bad though, my RRC cost 12k to paint and 4.5k to wrap in clear.

Wrapping is a great idea and having that covered under factory warranty not bad either. Rip it all off when you want to sell or leave as is if not too bad.

Self heals small scratches.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

As expected LR has got greedy - at those prices they will be priced out of the market - if anyone can afford to buy one with a couple of options will probably have the money to buy a RRS for only a little more.

Cross this off the list.

The Jappers are starting to look even better value.

Garry

Cant see that at all, its priced inline with LC200 or cheaper at base, cheaper than Gwagon professional.

More car on both counts as per my post above on what is standard.

RRS is a RRS, I've never looked at one as a tourer, weekend truck. But that's just my tastes i know it can do it.

New defender is a different animal with different buyers compared to the RRS.

To me its a Proper 4x4, right combo of utilitarian, comfort, safety, power @ a reasonable price for what you get.

Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

No mate they’re still $50k+.

As I say, they were under priced new at $50k.

Maybe for a basic 90 but even when the Puma 110s were first released they were $65k on the road - a lot of money for holes in the floor, ripples in new body work, exposed rivets everywhere along with all the leaks. Yes on paper were around $53K but in reality when you got a 110 into your driveway were $65K.

When I bought my D2 the Deefender 110 was only a few K more. Wasn't much in it. Had drive both and couldn't go past the D2. Never regretted that even with the crazy prices for a used Defender in recent years , but horses for courses etc.

Cheers