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    From what i have read the non electronic ones run a syple venturie system in the manifold. this means the flow is dependant on the air flow that is going in.
    I like this system as I dont want any computer to fail on me, and I dont know how it would all connect to my Isuzu.
    My mate has one (not sure what type) on his 96 TDI and said it had heaps more power but no better economy.

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    Mines boost regulated.Better torque,better economy. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    From what i have read the non electronic ones run a syple venturie system in the manifold. this means the flow is dependant on the air flow that is going in.
    I like this system as I dont want any computer to fail on me, and I dont know how it would all connect to my Isuzu.
    My mate has one (not sure what type) on his 96 TDI and said it had heaps more power but no better economy.
    An electrical engineer I know summed peoples attitude to electronics up quite well.
    "Because windows crashes all the time, people expect everything electronic to do the same".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    An electrical engineer I know summed peoples attitude to electronics up quite well.
    "Because windows crashes all the time, people expect everything electronic to do the same".
    Hi Dougal,

    I have only ever used Mac and have a severe allergy to electronics. In my case it is due to my inability to diagnose what causes probs. With mechanical stuff you can generally see, smell, hear or feel what is wrong.

    DL

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    on a "Diesel-Gas" system I would want as much electronics and Sensors to monitor all the Engine parameters as possible as "Longevity" of my engine is paramount ( if I was to install such a system) and if electronics Fails in this type of System , it's no Big Deal , I would think one would Still be able to Drive the Vehicle with Diesel in the tank as there is that Option , so the electronics in the system breaking down out in the Bush ( outback ) , that argument Doesn't really Hold water in that regard.

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    The economy and power achieved with the newer gas systems are only possible due to the electronics that monitors and determines when to allow gas to be used and when to turn it off.

    If it was not for electronics modern jets would not fly. So how many people use the DC3 service to London these days? All the carby vehicle drivers I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco_owner View Post
    on a "Diesel-Gas" system I would want as much electronics and Sensors to monitor all the Engine parameters as possible as "Longevity" of my engine is paramount ( if I was to install such a system) and if electronics Fails in this type of System , it's no Big Deal , I would think one would Still be able to Drive the Vehicle with Diesel in the tank as there is that Option , so the electronics in the system breaking down out in the Bush ( outback ) , that argument Doesn't really Hold water in that regard.
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    On my system the gas will not come on untill the coolant temp reaches 42 degrees and the boost pressure is above 2 psi. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco_owner View Post
    on a "Diesel-Gas" system I would want as much electronics and Sensors to monitor all the Engine parameters as possible as "Longevity" of my engine is paramount ( if I was to install such a system) and if electronics Fails in this type of System , it's no Big Deal , I would think one would Still be able to Drive the Vehicle with Diesel in the tank as there is that Option , so the electronics in the system breaking down out in the Bush ( outback ) , that argument Doesn't really Hold water in that regard.
    It may not be that simple. If you are bowling along a noisy, corrugated road and your electronic system throws a wobbly and starts severely overgassing, you could blow your engine completely before you even hear it detonating. The noise made when my D-gas system was on was very slight, but now it uses oil......

    I design electronic equipment for a living. I chose a non-electronic system for my car. It was a dud, but the point is I elected not to go electronic based on my professional knowledge. Unless the system is designed to be fail-safe (rarely done except in medical equipment) you just can't be confident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorne View Post
    The only other option is to take it on the chin and tell every man and his dog what a crap system it was. It's cheaper and will cost the company more money in the long run. The court system is there only to make blood sucking lawyers money ( no offence intended to other blood sucking parasites out there )

    Thorne
    I know you are quite right, Thorne, and I share your charitable view on the legal system. However, I have just retired from a very full-on job, during which I have been shafted quite a few times but not had the time to deal with it.

    Now I have time on my hands, and the clowns in Canberra who did a shoddy install of a shoddy product are going to pay even if I lose out on the deal. Ultimately I know only the legal sharks will win, but they made a mess of my lovely Land Rover and that is a sin not to be forgotten lightly!

    Cheers,

    Paul

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