Thread: Ikea 6X6D - anyone have an allen key?

Originally Posted by VladTepes

Lotza - that'll be a ripper of a rig !

Think of the turning circle !!!!!

FYI
MR Automotive in Qld make a fully servicable (adjustable etc) A-frame ball joint.

The Queen Mary II can do a U turn in the in it's own length, my 150 should be less than that! (QMII's length that is) Actually if I understand automotive theories correctly, a bogie drive turns around the mid point between the two axles, which means that the turning circle of a 150 with the second axle at 110" will be the same as a 130".

Thanks for the MR info!

Diana

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

The Queen Mary II can do a U turn in the in it's own length, my 150 should be less than that! (QMII's length that is) Actually if I understand automotive theories correctly, a bogie drive turns around the mid point between the two axles, which means that the turning circle of a 150 with the second axle at 110" will be the same as a 130".

Thanks for the MR info!

Diana

Rover obviously don't conform to standard automotive practice by calling that model the 150.
I'd always understood that there was two accepted methods of describing the wheelbase of 3 axled vehicles. Using your numbers above, one way is
110''+40''. the other example is, 130'' BC40'' BC = between centres.
Not sure the turning circle theory would necessarily apply to a loaded vehicle on a non load sharing bogie suspension.But my old 6x6 with load sharing, and a wheelbase of 74''+39'' seemed to conform to that theory and manouvered as if it were a 4x4 with a wheelbase of around 94''.
Bill.

Bill

The VIN lists it as a 110 with three axles listed on the Rover Group data plate, there is no other data plates yet found. The Land Rover computer system lists it as being dispatched by something like Land Rover Fleet and even lists a recall notice on the winch mounting, hence in-house build. I need to investigate this data again, as I may now be able to buy the original winch.

Maybe you are correct and the 150 refers to the extended wheelbase 130s made by Foley etc. Should I call it a 130 +/-20 then?

You may have read that I'm considering making it load share by replacing the coils with Firestone air bags (al la Isuzurover's County) and coupling them together on each side.

Diana

BTW would I have seen a video of your series 6X6 with the LROCV? A SIIa with a single wheelarch for the rear bogie?

Originally Posted by wagoo

<snip>There is a website called LandRover Madness or something similar that gives some information on the various 6x6 conversion firms.
<snip>

6x4 and 6x6

Huzar 6x6

Looking forward to more of this thread, Diana.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Bill

The VIN lists it as a 110 with three axles listed on the data plate.

Maybe you are correct and the 150 refers to the extended wheelbase 130s made by Foley etc. Should I call it a 130 +/-20 then?

You may have read that I'm considering making it load share by replacing the coils with Firestone air bags (al la Isuzurover's County) and coupling them together on each side.

Diana

BTW would I have seen a video of your series 6X6 with the LROCV? A SIIa with a single wheelarch for the rear bogie?

I think the correct British terminology would be 130'',40''BC. that is assuming that the distance from the front axle to the centre of the bogie is in fact 130'' and not 150''.
Interconnected airbags would certainly make the suspension versatile, and with manual control isolator valves, could be used to adjust and vary the individual ground pressure between the axles when the vehicle is lightly laden in certain cross country terrains where too much floatation can be a significant disadvantage.

There were a couple of videos circulating the net that were posted by a member of the LROCV, but they don't seem to exist anymore.If the vehicle you saw had small auxilary wheels under the belly and in the bumper position, then it was mine.If not, there are, or at least were a couple of other private build series 2 6x6s around Vic.
Bill.

A couple if pics of the chassis taken today.



In this pic, you can see the special mounts for the rear trailing arms.
You can also see the significant reinforcement just in front of the B axle, where the floor of a dual/cab or 110 wagon would normally be and in the background 110 Defender ICR brand tray to be used in the project.




Diana

Thanks to Stuart prop. of Graeme Cooper Automotive allowing me to use their press and mandrels, I was able to push out all the old suspension bushes and push in new ones and still have time for other activities. So now only have to pick up the dual cab, add the body mounts to the chassis and building can begin.

Unfortunately family commitments will prevent any more work for a fortnight.

Diana

on the turning circle thing....

generally you set up so that the ackermans principles make it turn between the bogie axles.

But it can be done so that the turing point is nearer to the front or rear axle and in the case of some very exquisite setups in front of the intermediate axle. based on the military 6x6 the turning point for the rear set is close to but just forwards of the center of the bogie.