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    Military 109 wagon?

    Evening, all

    I have come across what seems to be a late 2a station wagon with military style brush bar, Bamford PTO winch, what looks like a Jerry can holder on left rear cross member, deluxe bonnet with hold-down hooks, flat smiths heater, three second row seats, drivers seat with high back and headrest, body finished in pale blue or grey with white roof and door tops.

    Have only seen pictures at this stage - waiting for numbers.

    Does this sound like a known spec for military vehicle, or a bitsa?

    Also has 202 and series 3 grille, but am ignoring them for now.

    Any help appreciated - will try to share pics but can't work out how to copy them from website.

    Roger

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    ...also seems to have the earlier style 'deep' sills below doors.

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    The military style brushguard was also called the PMC brushguard after the Enfield Land Rover factory in Sydney where they were made. They were an option and many government departments also specified them on their vehicles.

    In the Sydney LROC, it was standard practice for our members to visit Allspares, Flemington Spares and Bernie Parts and get the tool brackets off Army landies for our civvy vehicles. The same for the jerry can bracket.

    I recently purchased a Bamford off LVS to replace the missing one on my FFR.

    So the presence of any of those fittings is not conclusive, what would be good would be an Army ID off the firewall. Or finding the chassis number in the REMLR database.

    Diana

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    VIN is 26300268a

    CalVIN says IIA SW 109 Petrol 62-71 CKD RHD unmodified - seems right

    I do not have a separate military number - how do I check on REMLR list?

    Roger

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    Going by that chassis No., I would hazzard a guess it is not (green) military and I can not find it in REMLR. I believe the Navy just used civy variants so it still could be ex Navy. The "A" in the chassis number makes it fairly early in the 2A scheme of things. I think "B" chassis No. started early (March ?) in 63. Pics when you get a chance (or learn how )

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    Thanks Paul

    Possibly navy? From what I can tell, original paint is pale grey or blue body with white roof and door tops. Also, seats appear to be original upholstery but olive green/blue colour with reddish brown trim and drivers seat is higher back than the others, with headrest - unlike anything I have seen online or in books.

    Are there any other ways of identifying a navy vehicle, or pics of them?

    The only photos I have are on someone else's website, and I haven't worked out how to copy them yet.

    Thanks again

    Roge

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    I found the REMLR RAN vehicles list and chassis number for RAN72 is only one digit different from the one I'm looking at - 200 vehicles between them. Possibly a typo?

    Is it possible to trace original supply/sale details by vehicle number? I assume most vehicles for army or navy came from one supplier and records exist?

    Roger

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    PM Diana (Lots a Landies) with your info, she should be able to help you or at least steer you in the right direction.

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    26300268a update

    Had a closer look today

    From what I can work out, assuming the VIN is original, this is an early 2a with later model front guards, grille panel, steering wheel, handbrake, heater and wiper motor.

    Would be keen to hear from anyone who could help confirm this - I am trying to get an idea of what it would take to get it back to original spec.

    Original colour appears to be darkish grey, with lighter colour painted over roof and door tops. Does not look like navy colour scheme discussed earlier .Rear LR badge is painted light colour with blue and red lettering - is this likely to be original?.

    It has battery mounts under passenger seat AND on chassis in engine bay - reading James Taylor's II/IIA specs book, does this suggest it was originally a diesel? The fuel filler cap is painted yellow (military?) - are there any other features to identify a diesel?

    Bamford winch and brush bar look to have been added later, assuming mounting frames welded to dumb irons were not standard issue?

    Rear axle is Salisbury type, front is Rover.

    Fuel tank has substantial protection on all sides - standard?

    Rear doors are one piece, fronts are two-piece.

    Overall body and chassis are very straight and only bad rust is in bulkhead.

    Pics attached - any help appreciated

    Thanks

    Roger
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