One More Sleep......

**JDNSW** · 2nd July 2018, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by bemm52

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Not sure how compatable Series 3 hubs axles etc are going to be with Series 2 should I need them,I've already noticed brake slave cylinder setup is different .

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Cheers Paul

Series 2/2a/3 axles , hubs etc are generally interchangeable, except:-

Series 3 109 (and a few very late 2a) have a Salisbury rear axle instead of a Rover one. Differential and half shafts are not interchangeable, and the Salisbury has 24 spline half axles and drive flanges. On these vehicles, so does the front, although the differentials are interchangeable.

Series 3 hubs (and some very late 2a) use 16mm wheel studs instead of the 9/16"BSF ones used up to then. The hubs remain interchangeable as assemblies - the brake drums need the larger holes in them.

Late Series 3 changed the wheel bearing arrangement, meaning bearings, stub axles and seals are different.

Brakes - 88" has 10" brakes, 109" has 11". Six cylinder (S2a or 3) and V8 have wider front brakes. This was extended to all 109s in late S3 production. These wider brakes (drums, backing plate mechanism and brake shoes) can be fitted to any 109 with no other changes and offer an easy brake upgrade. A bit more complicated on 88s.

Steering linkage:- Steering arms on the swivel housings were on the top on Series 2 and early 2a were on the top for most of Series 2a and all of S3. Note that two different size bolts (or studs) are used for these, and also, one of the four is a special one that is a close fit in the hole in the arm. In early Series 3 production the tie rod ends changed from having a shoulder for the clamp on the track rod or drag link to being threaded all the way. While the complete link including tie rod ends is interchangeable, the tie rod ends and the tubular links must not be mixed, as the combination cannot be securely clamped and is dangerous.

There may be something I have missed so if anyone spots anything, please add it.

Caution! The bits currently fitted may not be the same as original - someone may very well have swapped between models twenty or thirty years ago! So check what you have before ordering parts!

**bemm52** · 2nd July 2018, 08:00 PM

Thanks John a wealth of information again
The series 3 does have a Salisbury diff it seems huge in comparison to the rover diff,...... so if I'm understanding you correctly if I choose to use it I must also use the series 3 rover front diff and axles as they are different splines to 2a.
The other problem I'm thinking about, is at the moment I intend to use front and rear differentials that were on original vehicles eg not mix and match front and rears
The reason for this is I'm assuming front and rear diff must be same ratios and I've no idea what previous owners have fitted.

Cheers Paul

**bemm52** · 15th August 2018, 07:22 PM

Although I haven't posted much things are slowly happening ..........going to resurrect the two 2a's and make the series 3 a doner

IMG_3881.jpg IMG_3882.jpg drive shafts painted, considered reusing uni's but will replace with new.

IMG_3888.jpgsteering boxes stripped and cleaned for rebuilding

IMG_3890.jpgtwo had top race flogged out and homemade leather bearings inserted

IMG_3891.jpg1964 relay came out other two housings still stuck in a 3 and 2a chassis

IMG_3893.jpgTex Magna strip missing one 1/8 dia setscrew, both wheel rubbers shot with one having some kind of ally plate bodge

IMG_7577.jpgstarted the dreaded honesty book for financial controller..............Not quiet up to date

Cheers Paul

**67hardtop** · 15th August 2018, 08:28 PM

Did u notice the difference between s2a and s3 steering columns??

Cheers Rod

**bemm52** · 15th August 2018, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by 67hardtop

Did u notice the difference between s2a and s3 steering columns??

Cheers Rod

Yes there was some differences s3 and2a widelight were beefier at the top and had a big groove for I'm guessing a steering lock

Steering relays were different as well s3 having smaller diameter brass thrust washers and different size oil seals for end plates .........or maybe someone put in a crap after market relay at sometime.....housings and shafts identical

will be over your way in late September will look you up

cheers Paul

**67hardtop** · 15th August 2018, 08:52 PM

Good to see u again Paul.

**bemm52** · 19th August 2018, 05:37 PM

Awful weather here today, (although great to have rain)

To take my mind off a tooth ache (to early for an alcohol anaesthetic) I decided to spend the afternoon working on door frames in my shed with the pot belly and music cranked up.

Attachment 143401 the downside of getting 3 vehicles for nothing is that all the door frames are moth-eaten

Attachment 143403 cancer cut out Attachment 143402 new metal welded in

Attachment 143404 job done, need to modify door stop to series 2 spec but no biggie, I have the part from another door

Attachment 143405 now just got to resurrect another three frames

Dentist tomorrow

Cheers Paul

**67hardtop** · 19th August 2018, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by bemm52

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Dentist tomorrow

Cheers Paul

What time?? Tooth hurty??

Cheers Rod

**bemm52** · 19th August 2018, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by 67hardtop

What time?? Tooth hurty??

Cheers Rod

one more sleep

Cheers Paul

**bemm52** · 18th October 2018, 04:17 PM

With the news of a mate finding me a rust free early 2a bulkhead I got stuck in for a while

IMG_4088.jpg etched bits

IMG_4104.jpg clutch and brake masters all working +reservoir for 64' 2a all working will have rover 2.25 donk

just need to find rubber dust boots

IMG_4097.jpg what should I use to flush reservoir there is gunky stuff in the bottom?

IMG_4106.jpg master cylinders all working for boosted brake car will have 202 blue motor

IMG_4089.jpg need rubber boot for booster and non boosted masters to will jump on Google tonight and see what comes up

Cheers Paul

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