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    Besides stressing over my nuts I managed to get a bit done today....honed cylinders

    Removed rear main and seal IMG_4778.jpg IMG_4781.jpg

    Made guides IMG_4782.jpg to install these IMG_4776.jpg new are a bit bigger than old, may be interesting to fit, on hold till I get some Hylomar sealer

    Turned to head and IMG_4783.jpg IMG_4785.jpg lapped in valves

    Noah's spring compressor IMG_4788.jpg

    Cheers Paul

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    I fitted a new rear main seal kit came with new metal half moon plate thingys. I also used silastic instead of those t seals. Too bloody hard to fit. Spose ill find out when i eventually get my diesel going...

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    Make sure you use Hylomar or similar behind the two half moon rubber coated plates and also between them where they mate together.
    Make up a couple of angled plates to assist the fitment of the "T" Seals, it easy enough to do.
    As Rod said re: the hone job, move the hone quickly up and down the cylinder to get a good cross hatch.
    Use Loctite (Blue, Service Removable, or if you reckon you are never going to pull it down again and want absolute peace of mind, you could
    go for a stronger one like Red) on the rod nuts, either the new ones, or reuse the originals, and pull them down to the specified tension. Just make sure
    they are very clean and oil free before you apply the Loctite, CRC Brake Clean is good for the job.
    A few years ago I honed a donk (not a Land Rover) I was rebuilding and didn't get a decent cross hatch, it used oil like it was fuel.
    I stripped it down and re-honed it, that rectified the issue, doesn't use a drop of oil now. A good cross hatch is critical.

    Cheers, Mick.
    1974 S3 88 Holden 186.
    1971 S2A 88
    1971 S2A 109 6 cyl. tray back.
    1964 S2A 88 "Starfire Four" engine!
    1972 S3 88 x 2
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-014
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-556
    1988 Perentie 110 FFR ARN 48-728 steering now KLR PAS!
    REMLR 88
    1969 BSA Bantam B175

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    Mick/Rod I'll check honing tomorrow as I was fairly light handed...cordless drill on low speed, I was worried I'd remove to much material

    Got all valves back in and head painted will fit rocker gear when the head is on the block
    IMG_4792.jpg

    Also received a package from QLD containing instruments and parts ...thank you Mr Oneoff

    Any tips from the wise re piston ring gap orientation

    Cheers Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by bemm52 View Post
    Mick/Rod I'll check honing tomorrow as I was fairly light handed...cordless drill on low speed, I was worried I'd remove to much material

    Got all valves back in and head painted will fit rocker gear when the head is on the block
    IMG_4792.jpg

    Also received a package from QLD containing instruments and parts ...thank you Mr Oneoff

    Any tips from the wise re piston ring gap orientation

    Cheers Paul
    Paul there should be a pamphlet in the new ring box showing correct ring placement, the correct way up, and the correct
    ring gap orientation.

    A poor cross hatch can result in excessive oil consumption. A hone is not just a matter of deglazing the cylinder.
    If a piston is able to pick up a smidge of oil per stroke, after a few hours of running at several thousand rpm, that will
    equate to a lot of oil being carried up the cylinders, and burnt.

    Maintaining the proper cross hatch angle is important for two reasons;

    1. Oil retention on the cylinder wall and
    2. The rate of ring rotation. Excessively shallow cross hatch angles can hinder or slow down the necessary ring rotation that allows dissipation of heat. It can also leave too much oil on the cylinder wall allowing the rings to skate over the surface leading to excess oil consumption. Too steep of a cross hatch angle may not provide adequate oil retention and can result in dry starts and premature ring wear. A steep pattern angle can also create excessive ring rotation that will accelerate ring and piston ring groove wear.


    This link below shows the importance of a good hone job and the obtaining the correct cross hatch.

    Boring & Honing Instructions - Race Winning Brands Europe

    Cheers, Mick.
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    1974 S3 88 Holden 186.
    1971 S2A 88
    1971 S2A 109 6 cyl. tray back.
    1964 S2A 88 "Starfire Four" engine!
    1972 S3 88 x 2
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-014
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-556
    1988 Perentie 110 FFR ARN 48-728 steering now KLR PAS!
    REMLR 88
    1969 BSA Bantam B175

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    Rear main seal fitted IMG_4794.jpg IMG_4795.jpg

    Honing didn't look to bad so I left it, my old mechanic mate dropped in and gave me some advice about ring gaps,
    his placement was pretty well spot on to your diagrams Mick
    IMG_4796.jpg IMG_4797.jpg

    After some thought I decided to use the old conrod nuts with thread locker

    Block painted IMG_4799.jpg

    Cheers Paul

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    Is that the "Duck Egg Blue" Paul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chops View Post
    Is that the "Duck Egg Blue" Paul?
    No its an aerosol engine enamel called "Pontiac Blue", slightly darker than "Duck Egg Blue" as far as I can tell but readily available

    Cheers Paul

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    For LR 2.25 Donk Blue think more Pastel Blue IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bemm52 View Post

    Also received a package from QLD containing instruments and parts ...thank you Mr Oneoff
    I hope they’re some use to you.

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