Thread: For fast drivers who use the speed limit leeway..

I don't know about other people's Land Rovers, but my Defender shows about 107-109km/h on the speedo for 100km/h GPS. This is in line with just about every other car I've driven where there has been a 7-10% over-reading at 100km/h true speed. That means that in a 100km/h zone with a 4km/h leeway, most of us would need to be travelling at an indicated speed closer to 110km/h.

Sure, it gets a bit tough at lower speeds when the actual under-reading is reduced, but still - if your speedo is showing over the speed limit, then ergo, you're speeding and should not be surprised when someone gives you a ticket.

BTW, scraping a bit of extra speed using the 10% rule only gains you about half an hour on a typical trip from Brisbane to Sydney when you factor in roadworks and lower speed zones.

Originally Posted by frantic

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That is interesting, not just the bit about speed, but the bit about distance.

18.5.2.1. Every vehicle other than L-group vehicles shall be fitted with an odometer which shall:
18.5.2.1.1. indicate distance travelled in one kilometre units (or less) from 1 to 999,999 kilometres; and
18.5.2.1.2. indicate the actual distance travelled by the vehicle to an accuracy of ±4 per cent.

How many people have a vehicle where the odometer is accurate to + or - 4% ? I'm sure I have seem some that were out by more than that with standard tyres . My Defender just sneaks in when it has new standard size tyres. It is about 3.5%. When the tyres are almost worn out it will be much closer to 4%.

Originally Posted by solmanic

I don't know about other people's Land Rovers, but my Defender shows about 107-109km/h on the speedo for 100km/h GPS. This is in line with just about every other car I've driven where there has been a 7-10% over-reading at 100km/h true speed.

My Rangie is spot on in comparison to the GPS.

Originally Posted by frantic

The best way for most teens (and several seniors as well)is to be shown what those limits are not lectured to that their attitude is wrong. It would be far better for them to lose control(and learn from showing them action=result) of a car in a controlled site/ enviro than to let them go explore them on public roads! As most will sit there and think this old noob lecturing me about physics is full off it and go push their vehicle past it's limits which happens every day.

I believe you are right.

The ones who get the fright of their lives on the skid pan and take care to keep within the limits of their car, the conditions and their ability will be safer drivers.

The ones who think that because they have done an advanced driving course that they now know how to control a skid, so continue to drive as if they are infallible, will still wipe themselves out.

Edit: However, the fact remains that the benefit of the course is more about the change of attitude than increased ability. At least that is what the reports on the Austrian system say.

Originally Posted by BigT

At least over here in the west ,we don't lose points until your more than 9km over!!!!!





Tony
03 D2a 4.0 V8

Don't Gloat too long WA will follow

Originally Posted by 87County

so it's really just a tax, or a surcharge, for using your own roads ?

Try and prove it and then claim a tax deduction

Originally Posted by 3toes

A lot of this is driven by business which has a product to sell. They have figured out a very good sales patter which works very well on governments. You cannot really blame them for this as it is their role to sell believe the blame lies with the ignorant customers (in this case the government) who cannot understand and see through the sell.

Same happens here with both Speed cameras and CCTV cameras. Both have great sales campaigns by the retailers with little to show in actual results. So it does not work exactly as we said just means sir that you need the newer bigger version then it will work. Rather than questioning why it will work this time when did not before just swallow the sales patter and buy again so do not have to admit were wrong to buy the first time round.

We do not have fixed spped cameras around here. The police still actively monitor speed via speed guns and traps. In most places in the UK these have been replaced with fixed spped cameras and the police removed from the road. Every so often a 'safety campaigner' appears in the media to complain that the police here are not taking speed seriously as we do not have fixed speed cameras. It is this blinkered mind set of the people who make the decisions that is the real problem.

I was wondering about that when I was last over there.Everyone on your motorways were doing 90MPH ( Speed Limit 70 MPH ) so I just went with the flow .Never got booked but boy the traffic when it flowed it flowed but when it stopped it stopped.Sometimes there was enough time to boil the billy and have a cuppa.Funny thing is that most of the time I never found out what caused the holdup .The traffic just all of a sudden started to move and away we went again.Strange.

Originally Posted by p38arover

Mongrels.

It's all the fault of the bloody Victorians.

Quid pro quo. You guys gave us that ridiculous "Graduated Licensing System" and no [Rover] V8s etc etc, you can have our crap punitive speeding laws