Thread: Ashcroft Force 9, is there anything better?

Originally Posted by clubagreenie

Not sure of the website but there's still current talk on forums about them and seems supplies are still available.

Pretty good if you like your diff in the middle, I remember Pete Antunac had that style of thing in the rear of his original FJ40 thing.

they turned independent suspension into beam axle keeping all the same parts. personally I would go for portals as there is more ground clearance

Originally Posted by blitz

they turned independent suspension into beam axle keeping all the same parts. personally I would go for portals as there is more ground clearance

The option above is better for high speed applications.

Originally Posted by isuzurover

The option above is better for high speed applications.

actually IFS/IRS is better for that

To me they are just overly complex live axles that the negs outway the positives.

There isnt any normal 4x4 that would be easy to mount them under at a resonable height that would not require major major work. The same work could produce something better. And any custom buggy etc can be built better with other types of axles.

Actually they're a bolt in for jeeps (of course), options for new chassis mounts for longer arms, redesigned sump to get even more up travel. The CV's and shafts are the same as used for most premium buggy/truck trans axle applications. You'd be hard pressed to break them as they're landed on for great heights full tilt.

How are they "complex" live axles? There's a centre, axles and CV's. The cover comes off the back so you don not need to pull anything to change axles/CV's. And the cover isn't structural so there's an indication of how well they're built.

Originally Posted by uninformed

actually IFS/IRS is better for that

To me they are just overly complex live axles that the negs outway the positives.

There isnt any normal 4x4 that would be easy to mount them under at a resonable height that would not require major major work. The same work could produce something better. And any custom buggy etc can be built better with other types of axles.

I'm not saying I like them, just that most portals do not like extended highway use at 80+ km/h. Those things don't have reduction gears to generate heat.

LRA have just built their first Rover9..just got sent these shots by Andrew showing quick test fit with rear adjustable johnny jointed trailing arms and aluminum low pinion 9" :thumbup: