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Thread: Electronic ignition kit, or different distributor ?

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    Electronic ignition kit, or different distributor ?

    I've been eyeing off an electronic ignition kit from petronics to replace the points in my distributor recently. The price for the kit is about $280 which isn't too bad, and the way it is built it is pretty waterproof which I hear can be the unsticking of these kits.

    However as it is a holden motor (and probably should be running a distributor without points) am I better looking for a 2nd hand or new distributor from a later model which has no points, or would the electronic ign kit work better??

    Also, if there is little difference in performance, and it is cheaper to get a new distributor, you know what i'll be getting :wink:

    FYI it is a Holden red, 173 cui, engine prefix is VD which I understand means it is from a VB commodore (last of the red engines before the blue engine).

    Be interested in your thoughts on this shaunp
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    If you can get a working blue motor dissy and coil this will be fine. I have used them really hot red motors in the past. The other things that work ok are product called a Petronics ignitor. These fit in the dissy and work well. If they fail you can refit the point on the side of the road.

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    So long as you seal the module with silicone to prevent water shorting the terminals, should go like a stung cat ! :wink:

    Most wreckers sell the electronic dizzy for $50~75 and doesn't really matter which motor they are from, blue or black. The only two things that fail are the windings inside the dizzy itself (had that happen [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img] ) or the module fails. Both are expensive to repair (I tried) in which case buy another dizzy from the wrecker (had a points one doing nothing) and slot it in when the other fails.

    There is another system around that uses the points for an electronic style setup, name escapes me at the moment, which uses the pulse from points as a sensor for the module bit like a crank angle sensor. Maybe someone else can help me out but apparently is better than the holden setup. :?:

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    From what you have both said, the pretonics ignightor that I was looking at and the different distributor do much the same job (is that right, or is one better), but considering I could probably get 5 distributors from the wrecker for the price of a petronics ignightor, the wrecking yard might have a visit from me :wink:
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    Oh, and thanks for your replies [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

    Shaunp, you mentioned to take the coil with it, is this because it operates in a different fashon, or it just isn't up to the job?
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    Higher voltage.

    For example as a standard points switched system only gets 7~8Kv so the points don't burn and you don't get nuked too badly when fiddling with the plug leads with the motor going.

    On an electronic ignition you can most times double that power figure and is why electronic systems are so dangerous. The flip side is that higher voltage gives longer spark plug life and better fuel burn because increase of spark intensity.

    When hunting for eletrical stuff... don't forget your multimeter ! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Hi Phoenix
    Look for a "blue" holden dizzy and coil from a wrecker,cheap and reliable.The "black" dizzy wont do you any good,the black motors have a "crank position sensor" as part of their "electronic spark control".You would need to adapt that onto your motor,and I think(could be wrong) the cps lives inside the dunnydoore belhousing.
    I intend getting the blue setup for my red 202.
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    Aren't your thinking of the speed sensor for the EFI on the black motors Andrew ? I thought the Carby motor was identical to the blue apart from paint and on some extractors.

    Could be wrong. :?

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    Hi Jay
    I was told by a mate that knows his holden motors,he assured me I would be wasting my money getting the black dizzy as it wont work as a simple bolt on and I would need to get the cps.The module is also quite different on a black,ie not interchangeable with the blue.
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    8O Well there you go..... always figured the EST was part of the EFI system and on the non EFI they had the same setup they did the blue motor..... a self contained module on the side of the dizzy body for ignition.

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