Thread: Shock Absorbers (rear 110)

Last Defender i had i ran the Scorpian Racing drop mounts... Very impressed for about 10 seconds.....

After very little use i found the following problems...

Shocks bottoming out as the bumpstop needed to be 2 inches lower also and you needed spring retainers to keep the spring in on full droop....

All you do is move the travel 2" lower, you dont gain anything...

And the good old Scrap iron racing drop mounts showed their true colours when i cracked one of them....

So i junked them and went back to Std.

Get Longer shocks and listen to the experts..... Scorpion are not experts, just copy cats.

Originally Posted by BigJon

I did that (dropped mounts by 20 or 30mm) and snapped two Peddars shocks. Both times on full compression.

I wonder what their compressed length was ?
This is the problem, unless someone has done the measuring and testing and provides different mounts (eg. the LRA long stroke Billies) you can be the test monkey.

Similar thing with the TLC 80 series fronts, but at least most worked out the towers needed raising otherwise they went metal to metal. I didn't lift the towers enough, trying to maximise droop and duidn't allow for how much the bump stops actually do compress and wrecked two sets of Koni's internally. At least I could re-build them, so it didn't cost too much, more time than anything.

Thanks for the input BJ and Clarkie.

I just rang frogisland4x4. I was given 130GBP per shocker for the Raids. That's $285 ea. They don't have them in stock, I got put through to parts who confirmed the website was out of date, but couldn't confirm the price. When they get back to me with a FIRM price, I'll let you know.

The above price did not include VAT or Freight.

The local Billies are looking better every minute.

Originally Posted by Michael2

I just rang frogisland4x4. I was given 130GBP per shocker for the Raids. That's $285 ea. They don't have them in stock, I got put through to parts who confirmed the website was out of date, but couldn't confirm the price. When they get back to me with a FIRM price, I'll let you know.

The above price did not include VAT or Freight.

The local Billies are looking better every minute.

e242.02 Euro here
TREKK 4X4 ADVENTURE

which is A$397.00 each or more than the wholesale price here. Add freight to that and it's getting silly.

I reckon I'll still be getting my next lot of shocks out of the US.

Originally Posted by rick130

nope, you need to allow for 20mm bump stop compression on a Defender. I'm speaking from experience here. This is how much I've found the fronts to compress.

20mm is about right for the front - it willl bottom a lot more often than the rears on impacts, probably too conservative for the rear unless springs are super soft

Originally Posted by mark2

20mm is about right for the front - it willl bottom a lot more often than the rears on impacts, probably too conservative for the rear unless springs are super soft

I decided to go with the Bilseins from Quadrant.

I called ARB to get the spring specs for valving the shocks. They quoted me the specs on the rear springs - 21mm wire diameter and 420lb per inch compression - [so I'll brobably never hit the bump stops]. They told me they had shocks to suit, and I told them the story. The spring tech guru wasn't in, so he should call me back on Monday.

KONI were also able to do the 80 Series front springs, but their price was $660. They were also able to do an 88 series LC shocker, which is a wider bore (55mm outer / 36mm inner) for $863 pr. Given I could get the Raids out of South Australia for $480ea, I may as well have got Raids over the 88 Series, but both were too expensive.

According to this chart

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/ome/indexsprings.htm

420 is the heaviest spring they make. Super heavy duty.

So empty, its probably the shock limiting the lift!

Regards
Max P

My standard fender breaks them. I think it's the angle of the pin. The answer may be to leave the bush a little loose.