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    Quote Originally Posted by disco2hse View Post
    Cheers, that gives me a much better idea

    I remember the diagrams of the winch system and I had the time and inclination I would really have liked to set that up too. People I have spoken to since, that have seen or used that system, did say that once you got used to it the flexibility was great.
    yes, I am looking forward to being able to have a single winch to go fore and aft. I've toyed with the idea of reviving the old Ramsey REP9500 for on the front for a second option but will wait and see how the Thomas goes with the rearward - forward design. The whole concept was to get the weight more evenly distributed and a second winch back on the front (unless it has synthetic rope ) would negate the whole rationale of this. I could also of course mount the Ramsey to a remote bracket and have Hayman Reece hitches around the truck but I have never yet been in a position where this would prove handy. The Hi-Lift winch kit I also carry has been of use in some strange angle pulls from the side but only to stablise and not to retrieve.

    Quote Originally Posted by disco2hse View Post
    I assume you are still going to route the cable around to the front at some stage?
    Yes, aside from as discussed above the original project plan still stands. I will be routing the cable from the rear snatch block over to the middle cross member under the deck. From there it changes direction to straighten relative to the chassis and head downwards to the gearbox mount on passenger side. I will use greasible 8000kg snatch blocks for these direction changes. The gearbox mount is to be built from scratch to include a snatch block. I'll not alter the original incase things go pear-shaped. From here it'll come out through the gap between the top of the steering damper and the front cross-member.

    Quote Originally Posted by disco2hse View Post
    I see you are still running the 12V electric motor
    Yes, I have got very short wire runs to the solenoid from the battery in this set-up. I have single-line winched logs for up to a minute and could still touch the cables and the winch motor. Very pleased with the way this project is falling together. That is the new motor on the winch. Did I mention that the motor from the Thomas is the exact same specifications as for the Ramsey REP9500? I will use the old motor from the Thomas on the Ramsey if I use it. otherwise is a spare part.

    Quote Originally Posted by disco2hse View Post
    Oh, and one of the guys in the Auckland 4WD club suggested using an actuator (air or electrical driven) on my free-spool dog handle so I don't have to get out of the cab
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    Unless of course you leave it engaged all the time and use the motor to feed out.
    I simply power in or out momentarily to engage/disengage the dog clutch. once disengaged the line free-spools reasonably easy. Once it has been free-spooled out, I simply start pulling in. The winch slowly comes round to re-engage the dog clutch.

    Quote Originally Posted by disco2hse View Post
    By the way, interested to see how you have arranged the exhaust pipe. Does it go over the chassis cross member? I have to do similar because the factory fitted pipe work has front main muffler hanging about three inches below the chassis rail It now sits slightly higher than the bottom edge of the rail and means the muffler is not continually getting whacked, bent, and buckled.
    This exhaust pipe was a exhaust-shop muck-up. I asked for their ideas on muffler position and angles etc and with a few minor verbal adjustments to their ideas, all agreed and I left them to it. I should have put it into drawings and writing. The overall lay of the pipe route is where I want it but the finished design now needs tweaking in several locations. The muffler is mounted on edge instead of flat. It sits flush with the bottom of the chassis rails whereas if it had been installed flat it would have been a few inches inside of the chassis framework. The joiners they have used and the position of them will need changing eventually. The welding looks like it is something I would have done with one eye closed . The exit of the tailpipe leaves black carbon on the inside of the rear chassis member. Otherwise it is fine.

    It has the main muffler in the same location generally as OEM. It then goes up as per the picture above, and over the chassis to the outside of the chassis rail. It then runs straight as possible parallel with the flat-deck mounting points on the chassis (approx 2 inches above the rear spring turret) before turning out to the ill-placed tailpipe location. All is 2.5". Goes well enough but the craftmanship left a lot to be desired. For the money I could have crafted a first class gas welded system myself old-school style but I did not have the time.

    Cheers,

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaa45 View Post
    Hi Phil,
    Great pics. I'm watching with interest.
    Did you ever manage to open that manual for the Thomas winch I put up?
    Cheers
    Danny
    Hi Danny,

    I must revisit that one. I had a few computer problems about then and had a load of work on also so couldn't sit still enough to figure it out. By memory it was a single page file but you indicated I needed to do somethng else I think.

    Cheers,

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by windsock View Post
    Yes, aside from as discussed above the original project plan still stands. I will be routing the cable from the rear snatch block over to the middle cross member under the deck. From there it changes direction to straighten relative to the chassis and head downwards to the gearbox mount on passenger side. I will use greasible 8000kg snatch blocks for these direction changes. The gearbox mount is to be built from scratch to include a snatch block. I'll not alter the original incase things go pear-shaped. From here it'll come out through the gap between the top of the steering damper and the front cross-member.
    Sounds good

    Quote Originally Posted by windsock View Post
    Yes, I have got very short wire runs to the solenoid from the battery in this set-up. I have single-line winched logs for up to a minute and could still touch the cables and the winch motor. Very pleased with the way this project is falling together. That is the new motor on the winch. Did I mention that the motor from the Thomas is the exact same specifications as for the Ramsey REP9500? I will use the old motor from the Thomas on the Ramsey if I use it. otherwise is a spare part.
    This is what I have noticed. There are quite a few Ramsey copies, which is a good thing, being that they are such a good winch.
    Alan
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    Quote Originally Posted by windsock View Post
    Hi Danny,

    I must revisit that one. I had a few computer problems about then and had a load of work on also so couldn't sit still enough to figure it out. By memory it was a single page file but you indicated I needed to do somethng else I think.

    Cheers,

    Phil
    Just double click the single page and it should open to 33 pages
    Cheers
    Danny

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    Thomas winch manuals now available for download
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/local_link...id=7&linkid=87

    Cheers
    Danny

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaa45 View Post
    Thomas winch manuals now available for download
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/local_link...id=7&linkid=87

    Cheers
    Danny
    Cheers to you Danny

    Let us know if you are over this way, will tee up for a brew or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by windsock View Post
    Cheers to you Danny

    Let us know if you are over this way, will tee up for a brew or two.
    Always wanted to see NZ. Meet a couple of girls from Wanganui when I was much younger. (35 years ago) Hope the beers improved

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaa45 View Post
    Always wanted to see NZ. Meet a couple of girls from Wanganui when I was much younger. (35 years ago) Hope the beers improved
    hahaha

    The beer is much better. Lion Red and DB Brown

    The girls won't have aged so well !

    Then again, a guy I used to work with had a saying "The great thing about school girls is that they never get older." He was of, shall we say, limited morals.
    Alan
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    35 years ago... don't know whether the beers have improved with age but our pubs stay open after 6pm now so you can sample a few more of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by windsock View Post
    35 years ago... don't know whether the beers have improved with age but our pubs stay open after 6pm now so you can sample a few more of them...
    Ayup Lion and DB are still weasel****, but there are other much better beers on offer.
    Alan
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