Thread: Ultra flexi coils

Originally Posted by Benny_IIA

Im running 5000's with 14.3" stroke.

With my 3" inch sus stuff coils it still drops below the cones which can cause problems .

Im going back to std rear coils and 2" fronts. the fix the relocation problems.


As the std coils have a much shorter free lenght meaning the axle is much closer to level when the cone goes back in.


Also mine drives like a peice of **** with the lift.


14" is around the max the rover rear end can flex

With that amount of travel in your shocks,your standard rear coils will just dislocate further.I think you will be better off by having your coils so that they don't dislocate,which will also add to stability off road.
The rear spring locators that I use,allow my rear coils to dislocate no more than 2" before they are captured.
2" lift on a Defender/County is plenty,just needs to be set up properly.If you want/need more travel in the front,you need to start thinking about something like a 3 link setup.

Wayne

Lowranger, I agree with your statement, defenders don't really need big lifts, a three inch lifted defender(mine) has the same ground clearance as a (my friends) Patrol with 2 inch body lift, 6 inch coil lift and running 35 inch tyre's, now to some having this much ground clearance may seem a bit extreme but I prefer to keep my chassis and sills of the rocks and believe that a 3 inch lift on a 110 is about perfect provided you are running a wider wheel track ie negative 25 offset rims or the likes. I like to climb rocky mountains and washed out hills where the clearance is good to have, a dedicated touring vehicle dose not need such a high lift and also come down to personal preference.

not only will you have as much clearance,but you will have as much,if not more suspension travel.I think,that looking at the photographs you vehicle,and mine have pretty much the same suspension travel,even though they are set up differently.And yes,I agree that widening the track,with offset rims,adds to the stability,and certainly the feeling of incar stability.I have -25mm offset rims with 35s as my prefered offroad setup.As my vehicle is primarily set up for the same use as your vehicle.But when used as a touring vehicle,I do go back to running 33's,as these are far easier to find if needed in more remote areas.

Wayne

It dose have more travel, I inquired about getting some Tough Dog big bore adjustable shocks and the longest they made to suit the 6 and 7 inch lift cruiser or patrol had only a travel length of 290mm which is not as much as my Rancho's, I thought that was very strange all lifted up and no travel.

You say you run 35's some times, what gearbox do you have.

So tough dog do not hav enough travel , ranchos hav enough, what about procomp ? I think I might still go 14" bilsteins and mount them on different brakets ! ?

Originally Posted by LowRanger

With that amount of travel in your shocks,your standard rear coils will just dislocate further.I think you will be better off by having your coils so that they don't dislocate,which will also add to stability off road.
The rear spring locators that I use,allow my rear coils to dislocate no more than 2" before they are captured.
2" lift on a Defender/County is plenty,just needs to be set up properly.If you want/need more travel in the front,you need to start thinking about something like a 3 link setup.

Wayne

due the axle walking forward during down travel and the free lenght of the 3 inch coild being very long, when it comes time for the spring to relocate the cone is on the out side of spring.


But when using a spring with a much shorter free lenght ie stock spring, the axle has moved back enough when it is time for the cone to do its thing.

I doubt my springs would strech enough to run them retained

Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

So tough dog do not hav enough travel , ranchos hav enough, what about procomp ? I think I might still go 14" bilsteins and mount them on different brakets ! ?

yes pro comp do long lenghts up to 14"

but they are not a patch on bilsteins (im running 5000 billy's 14.3")

Chief, pro comp have them in the right length, cal415 runs pro comp

Benny_ IIA, your next mod should be to cut the rear control arm brackets off and move them forward to gain longer control arms, I have been thinking of this lately.