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    Quote Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f View Post
    So tough dog do not hav enough travel , ranchos hav enough, what about procomp ? I think I might still go 14" bilsteins and mount them on different brakets ! ?
    c.h.i.e.f.
    What a lot of people do is just look at the amount of travel that a certain shock is capable of.What is more important,is how the shock is mounted,where abouts in the cycle the shocks sits at rest when mounted.What too many people get all carried away with is looking at how much drop they are getting on the suspension,without worrying about up travel.I know of quite a few people whose vehicles have a tremendous amount of down travel,but there up travel is less than a vehicle fitted with standard shocks.Because their fancy long shocks are too long in the body and they have either had to extend their bump stops,or just let the shocks top out,either way,this makes the vehicle unstable.That is why I mentioned that you should start by removing your shocks and just cycling your springs up and down to work out the amount of travel you have available and working out the length at full compression,then buying the appropriate shocks and mounts to suit.Do the job once and do it properly.


    Wayne

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambrover View Post
    It dose have more travel, I inquired about getting some Tough Dog big bore adjustable shocks and the longest they made to suit the 6 and 7 inch lift cruiser or patrol had only a travel length of 290mm which is not as much as my Rancho's, I thought that was very strange all lifted up and no travel.

    You say you run 35's some times, what gearbox do you have.
    I am running the standard LT77 with the LT 230 transfer with 1.4:1 transfer gears.But I have 4.11 diff ratios which helps with the 35's.

    Unfortunately I have broken 2 Rancho 9000 series shocks on my old RRC,and even though they rode nicely,I could never rely on them again.

    I think if I was making a weekend rockhopper again,I would go with Bilstein 7100 short bodies and make the mounts to suit.But they wouldn't be my choice for a multi purpose vehicle though.

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    When you say about 4.11 diff ratios were do u find them for rovers? And what are in countys/defenders standard ?

    Looks like I got some flex testing then to get correct measurements there is nothing worse than a topping out shock

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f View Post
    When you say about 4.11 diff ratios were do u find them for rovers? And what are in countys/defenders standard ?

    Looks like I got some flex testing then to get correct measurements there is nothing worse than a topping out shock
    3.54..


    I would look at lucky8 or other US sites for them.. you will cry when see the price of the sals

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    i was looking at luck8 and they have 14" standed an short body shocks, whats the go there???

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    3.54 so that means they are quite a high ratio ? how do rovers crawl so slow then ? Is it to do with gearbox ratios ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f View Post
    3.54 so that means they are quite a high ratio ? how do rovers crawl so slow then ? Is it to do with gearbox ratios ?
    It's a combination of the transfer gears and diff ratio's, the diff ratio's are designed and suited for standard size tyres, as soon as you put large tyres on your gearing is raised.
    In a defer or county half the time you can get away with running standard ratio's due to the lower ratio's in the transfercase.
    33's are no dramers at all with standard gearing, but if you go to 35's you might need to get 4:11's or 3:8's or something.
    If you find it fine to drive on the highway without lower diff ratio's running 35's but off road the gearing is to high, it might be worth considering transfer reduction gears instead seeing the 4:11 c&p for a sals are so exy$$

    CHEERS TIM.

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    Well I found that running 31's on a 200tdi defender it could crawl nicely and didnt even hesitate or shudder when the clutch was let out without any accelerator same with my puma and its 235/85r16's but for some reason with my 4bd1t county with 31's it seems like it has a taller first gear (5speed santana lt85 box) and shudders on takeoff and almost stalls if not accelerator is used engine runs smooth,idle speed is correct,and it done it with a clutch that had 300k on it and also with the new heavy duty one that I just put in yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f View Post
    When you say about 4.11 diff ratios were do u find them for rovers? And what are in countys/defenders standard ?

    Looks like I got some flex testing then to get correct measurements there is nothing worse than a topping out shock

    c.h.i.e.f.
    My vehicle has been set up to suit my running gear ie 35's etc.So I am running Ashcrofts new 4.12:1 reverse cut R&P in the front and have a 4.1:1 Dana R&P setup in my rear salisbury with custom made driveshaft flange.

    Wayne

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny_IIA View Post
    3.54..


    I would look at lucky8 or other US sites for them.. you will cry when see the price of the sals

    Keith at Rovertracks is who I use.And my Dana R&P setup including custom Driveshaft flange cost about half the price of a genuine Salisbury R&P.

    Wayne

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