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    Starting?

    I need some help with my Hitachi starter. All I get is a 'Click' ......... nothing, when I turn the key (not a flat battery). If I try enough times it will eventually start but is veeeeery tempermental.

    Worse now is that it has started after the usual prodding and it just kept starting untill I disconnected it at the battery!?!?! What is going on? Can anyone shed light on my posessed starter motor?

    I am asking before having to buy a whole new one as it could be just start solenoid? or starter relay?

    (attached photo of starter solenoid) I can't pull it apart without breaking it. Can it be repaired?

    Cheers,
    Brian.
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    Yep common problem (well at least for me it is ) I have a push button to start mine rather than turning the key so I just keep hitting the button making it do it's one click and eventually it starts...it has been like this for years and has not got worse so I left it I'm pretty sure it's just dirty contacts and by clicking it enough times it makes contact and starts...I couldn't be bothered fixing it as I have other problems in other sections of the vehicle...

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    Have a look here brian id give these guys a call and see if you can get a new solinoid of em

    SOLENOID suit HITACHI STARTER 12 Volt NISSAN PATROL SD33 / ISUZU (09-217) | eBay

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    You can fold the crimps back to get them apart, desolder the contact and reinstall is the reverse.
    But it's a PITA job. If you can buy a new solenoid, then do so.

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    Hi guys,

    I have done some investigating and have found damage from too long a cycle time. The brushes have come off their respective soldered on parts and the contacts in the starter relay were badly burnt and may have been the cause of the sticking on for ages causing the damage. Shouldn't be too hard to repair .

    Thank you for the advice. I'll see if I can repair this one. Fingers crossed.

    Cheers,
    Brian.

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    Ok, the solenoid is fixed and works now buuut...... I 'wisely' put some grease on the jumpy-outy spline thing and now the clutch slips and it won't turn the cog, hense no engine starting happening.

    So, I cleaned out the clutch thing with kero and metho to make sure there was no grease left but still no joy .

    I wonder if ashdown sell the clutch bit?

    We'll see tomorrow...


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    What clutch bit?

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    In my experience the root cause of starter problems is often excessive current draw due to low voltage at the starter resulting from voltage drop due to bad connections - in my case the connection between the engine and the chassis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    In my experience the root cause of starter problems is often excessive current draw due to low voltage at the starter resulting from voltage drop due to bad connections - in my case the connection between the engine and the chassis.

    John
    Same for me. My engine to chassis earth strap had broken on the inside and caused all sorts of problems. PO replaced starter and battery then gave up.

    Everything looked fine until i look it off and properly inspected it..
    Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
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    The issue is not that the starter doesn't spin fast. It turns over fine but the gear that engages the flywheel turns slowly and you can grab it with your hand and stop it from turning. The drive is not getting through the 'appendige'. I called it a clutch but its the thing that the drive is transferred through or the starters 'final drive'. It should engage whilst spinning one driection and disengage in the other.

    It is a press together piece. Any clues?

    Cheers,
    Brian

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