Thread: Should I buy a turbod perentie 110?

Originally Posted by Wicks89

Hey guys,
I need your sage counsel on this. I currently own a td5 defender 130, and have been dreaming of getting an ex army 110 and doing it up in it's stead.

The other day I stumbled on a Perentie 110 GS which had been turbod and painted and had some other accessories fitted. The owner bought the vehicle as a promo vehicle for his gym, then bailed out of the business venture and is selling the vehicle off.

He's asking $20,500 which is about $4000 more than any other Perentie on Carsales at the moment.

Ive attached some images of the receipt he had for the professional instal of the turbo, and the dyno run readings.

Ive driven it and it has typical perentie charm (I am an ADF member and have driven many of these vehicles so Im not going in blind) but I have a few questions of you - the Isuzu master race:

1. The turbo has been installed with no evidence of changing any of the internals to 4BD1 T specs (the owner isnt mechanically minded and couldnt answer my questions) it has travelled about 200,000 kms probably about 20,000 with the turbo - is this a huge issue? How much does it cost to get the internals?

2. Will a truck cab or hardtop fit over the ROPS fitted to the perentie? About how much do these cost?

3. Can aircon be fitted to the 4BD1 T? (wishful thinking I know, but Im curious)

4. It currently isnt intercolled, I would aim to do that but is it achievable?

5. My td5 is having consistent fuel pump issues and power issues, will I face this with the 4BD1 T?

6. Is power steering a doable upgrade?

7. Im going to put 35s on it as soon as I get it (if I do) reckon it will pull through?

8. Its running the LT95 what are some good 5 speed boxes and could it be done by me?

9. is 20,000 a fair price for him to ask? Im queasy about the price tag given it will basically be a daily driven project car.

10. What am I forgetting/not thinking of? What traps do people fall in with these things?

Thanks in advance for all your help guys!

Wicks. Do not temove the 4spd box. A/c is doable. There is no need to worry about the insides of an N/A 4bd1 being able to cope with a turbo. You won't need to bother about intercooler if around 10psu boost. You will not have any of yhe td5 issues. 20k is possibly ok dont forget the turbo instal is about 5k. And yes power steer is easy fit.

Best go and buy it then and some pics wouldn't go astray ☺☺☺

Considering a reasonable GS might sell for somewhere around $6000 to $9000 at auction, and a turbo doesn't add $12000 to the value, there'd have to be a lot of bolt-on fruit and a heck of a lot more receipts to convince me it was worth anywhere near that much.
Use the search function: truck cabs, power assisted steering, turbos, gearboxes...it's all been covered.

BTW there is no in-tank fuel pump for the Isuzu donk, and the injector pump is rarely considered a weakness.

Crikey, this will be no 3!

I think you can do whatever you want if the wallet allows. I've often wondered about an a/c unit sitting in one of the side boxes and running off an electric motor. Probably fanciful thinking from a bloke who doesnt know much.

I bumped into a chap with a Perentie that he'd fitted a series 3 hardtop to and kept all of the rops system. Said he had to modify it a little but it wasnt too hard to do. Getting hold of a hardtop could be fun but I remember reading that landybitz was bringing some of that gear in for Perentie owners.

I think 20k could possibly be a bit steep, but on the other hand the turbo conversion is done and its registered etc. Have to do the sums on that one and work out what your time is worth to buy one at auction and then mod it the same.

Go for it! They are cool jiggers. I suspect I'll have one to keep the deefer company in the next couple of years.

1. The turbo has been installed with no evidence of changing any of the internals to 4BD1 T specs (the owner isnt mechanically minded and couldnt answer my questions) it has travelled about 200,000 kms probably about 20,000 with the turbo - is this a huge issue? How much does it cost to get the internals?

HA HA there is no change, they are the same, SOME and i say SOME have piston squirters, but then only some, non issue forget the topic.

2. Will a truck cab or hardtop fit over the ROPS fitted to the perentie? About how much do these cost?

why not just buy a 110 with a roof already, as a bonus you get two more doors as well

3. Can aircon be fitted to the 4BD1 T? (wishful thinking I know, but Im curious)

they did from the factory, just the ARD was being cheep. IE you are looking at the poor pack 110 for about twice the money

4. It currently isnt intercolled, I would aim to do that but is it achievable?

why? the short answer is yes, but then if you like your undies showing above your crack, do it

5. My td5 is having consistent fuel pump issues and power issues, will I face this with the 4BD1 T?

a TD5 is a TD5 complete with an ECU and extra cylinder, alloy head, and if you have to ask an injections system you will not understand. a 110 has an IZZZUUUZZU with the normal amount of cylinders which was destined about 35 years before anything God Made. there is ONE big common factor between the two. and that is they both have a land-rover badge. short answer = NO

6. Is power steering a doable upgrade?

one again if you were looking at a 110 then this would be std, but the poor adf decided it was the only way to make there diggers have bigger arm mussels.

7. Im going to put 35s on it as soon as I get it (if I do) reckon it will pull through?

WOW 35" muddies in a coles car park, = pull though. yes just down grade TF gears to something like from a TD5

8. Its running the LT95 what are some good 5 speed boxes and could it be done by me?

NONE, silly question Next.

9. is 20,000 a fair price for him to ask? Im queasy about the price tag given it will basically be a daily driven project car.

daily driven ex army 110, base model no air no nothing on 35" rubber as a daily driver for 20K. well there is always a sucker,

10. What am I forgetting/not thinking of? What traps do people fall in with these things?

traps. well the bigest trap is the CCOOOLLL factor, even man who wants to be in the army

LOOK in all reality, as a daily driver? and for that money, you could get a GETZ and an isuzu county. the only thing missing from that is that you will not look like a prat

Originally Posted by justinc

the turbo instal is about 5k.

manifold = 380
turbo = 800

two oil lines made by pertec = 140

exhorst, doughnut cut and shunt = 300

air filter mucking about and fitting pipe work = 200

and about 10 hours of labour

Do you monitor gumtree? If you're prepared to pop down to Alice there is a 6x6 for just under $20k. In Darwin itself there is a 4x4 for $12k assuming naturally aspirated but room to play.

KLR Automotive in Sydney are very helpful and stock the power steering pump for the 4bd1, and the 4 bolt steering box to suit.

There's also the arguments for/against replacing the Landy gearbox with an Isuzu gearbox.

I agree with what the others have said and would like to add:
A single cab will fit straight on to a Perentie (I have done it) and will cost you about $2500
A full 110 roof and sides will not fit without removing the ROPS and the securing plates for the ROPS
If it is an FFR it won't fit at all because of the tail gate
Power steering is a great mod that you can do yourself (I have done it) or buy a kit and put it on. The KLR kit is $1750 and is complete. See their web site and there is plenty of info on here as well about this mod
Don't bother changing the box but if you insist KLR do that as well- very expensive
$20 000 is too much money
I believe the one you have mentioned should go for $12k tops even with a turbo
Best advise is drive one before you decide
You will either love it or hate it
My 2c worth
Phil

Originally Posted by Phil B

Power steering is a great mod that you can do yourself (I have done it) or buy a kit and put it on. The KLR kit is $1750 and is complete. See their web site and there is plenty of info on here as well about this mod
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1700 not a bad price for a kit. 450 for the pump, 700 for a 3 bolt box, 80 for a second hand resovour.

then there is the question of if your perenty has the cam drive cover that will mount the pump or not, i would Imagine that that's not cheep. and assume that it is the same as the 4bb 6bb, 4bd, 6bd, 4bg and 6bg, so wreckers.
another assumption is that the chassis will be drilled imperial and the 4bolt is metric so a bit of mucking about there.