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    Non shut down

    Mmmmm

    I knew it had some issues

    When I first picked it up I had a feeling I noticed that it didn't always shut down on the first turn of the key but thought it was just my imagination.

    Now it's obvious , definately doesn't shut down on ignition off.

    Other than the fuel shut off solenoid and the fuel shut off assembly could it be something simple?

    Costs to repair , other than than the cable pull to shut down method ?

    Photos coming this weekend I hope

    Pete

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    The 4BD1 is shut down by a separate actuator that should be tucked under the RH mudguard in a plastic bag. It is connected via a cable to a lever on the injection pump. As its operation is noisy it should be easy to check whether it is working.

    If it is not, then the unit is faulty, or the circuit to it is faulty - this should include a fuse and a relay, and may take a bit of detective work to find. If the unit is faulty, do a search in this section of the forum, some people have found sources for the unit, I think from memory in Singapore. The alternative is to fit a stop cable - but note that this will not be legal.

    If it is working, there are too possibilities - a broken or slipping cable to the pump, or the engine is running on its own oil. This could be via a breather, worn piston rings, excessive oil level (possibly as a result of dribbling injectors) but if it is a turbo, it is most likely coming from worn bearings in the turbocharger.

    Obviously the cost will vary widely according to what you find is the trouble.

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    The only way i can turn my zook off is by stalling it Turn the key off take it out she still runs

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    The 4BD1 is shut down by a separate actuator that should be tucked under the RH mudguard in a plastic bag. It is connected via a cable to a lever on the injection pump. As its operation is noisy it should be easy to check whether it is working.

    If it is not, then the unit is faulty, or the circuit to it is faulty - this should include a fuse and a relay, and may take a bit of detective work to find. If the unit is faulty, do a search in this section of the forum, some people have found sources for the unit, I think from memory in Singapore. The alternative is to fit a stop cable - but note that this will not be legal.

    If it is working, there are too possibilities - a broken or slipping cable to the pump, or the engine is running on its own oil. This could be via a breather, worn piston rings, excessive oil level (possibly as a result of dribbling injectors) but if it is a turbo, it is most likely coming from worn bearings in the turbocharger.

    Obviously the cost will vary widely according to what you find is the trouble.

    John
    What JD said. I thought mine was buggered, but turned out to be a poor contact on one of the wire connectors in the dash. Whenever I moved the wires (e.g. did any work behind the dash) it would stop working.

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    is the alternator original?

    common problem with the isuzu not stopping ( like mine) turn the key off with your foot on the brakes or the lights on. if it stops with that than you may want to put a diode in some where

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    Quote Originally Posted by clean32 View Post
    is the alternator original?

    common problem with the isuzu not stopping ( like mine) turn the key off with your foot on the brakes or the lights on. if it stops with that than you may want to put a diode in some where
    x2 Try holding your foot on the brake while turning off the key.
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    Thaks All

    John. I hope not.
    Grove. I've been doing that , but putting all that torque on the clutch and bits
    Clean and Muz. Very Interesting

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    Geez you guys are good

    Get into car , start it up , juggle mess of wires where fuse box is, put foot on brake , switch off and hey presto it shuts down. Repeat 3 -4 times , no problems and on each restart I can hear the valve assembly motor open up with a buzzing sound in behind the dash on drivers side.
    So happy , I go back out 2 hrs later , switch ignition on , no buzzing sound and no start , will crank but no fuel delivery?
    Sounds like dodgy wiring.
    I do know that it has dodgy wiring.
    Can I remove the cable and do it manually for now

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    To get you going again (or stopping) you can put a manual choke cable in; it's the same system that the earlier 3.9Ds had. I don't know if it will cause RWC issues like that though.

    Rob W

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    Thanks Bob

    I have seen another with the manual throttle handle and lockable knob set up on the middle fire wall above the fuse box for manual shut down.
    RWC may be an issue. I'll see what they say.

    Above set up didn't seem like a bad idea for theft prevention also

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