Thread: Defender Puma 2.2 - voice your issues

Originally Posted by Loubrey

It has been discussed at length before, but a SWB Wrangler needs at least $15,000 spent on suspension upgrades to match a stock Defender 90, which in itself says a lot.

Cheers,

Lou

Dear Lou,

i think your claims of how much has to be spent are slightly exaggerated, specifically for the JK generation. Regardless, neither vehicle is optimal in factory form. Compromises are made on each, plus their core designs are intended for different applications. There is always room for improvement. And i believe the Australian aftermarket industry is just trying its hardest to emulate the success of the American aftermarket. Makes sense, there is a lot of money in it.

Also, the JK has a specially calibrated ESP system which reconfigures depending on whether it is in high range, low range or has diff locks engaged. I think they now have hill decent control, but i have personally never had an issue with low gears and thoughtful use of the stop pedal.

I always tell people to not mistake their Japanese family wagons and work utes with real off road vehicles. Even if those real off road vehicles spend a disproportionate amount of time off the road getting fixed. Fascinating thread, i cant wait to get myself into the cramped seat of a rover.

Take care,
Tom.

Tom,

You've clearly driven Wranglers before, but be prepared to be amazed by a stock Defender's ability (especially a Puma) compared to any Jeep.

Enough said, welcome to the fold!

Cheers,

Lou

Originally Posted by Loubrey

Easy to check and make sure though. Ignoring the preceding numbers, just look at the last 6. If your cars are in the batch of 2400 that falls between 461900 and 464300 (last 6 is the serial number) they need to get their bolts swapped.

The recalls are all early MY15's and the last one 464300 was built on 4 December 2014



Cheers,

Lou

Thanks Lou,
My very early MY15, first day in fact 07/07/14 , is all good 456336, obviously using up old MY14 parts , I can understands a new feature like DSC having a recall, but bolts

Originally Posted by Loubrey

Tom,

You've clearly driven Wranglers before, but be prepared to be amazed by a stock Defender's ability (especially a Puma) compared to any Jeep.

Enough said, welcome to the fold!

Cheers,

Lou

Not driven, but through my experiences I am willing to state with absolute confidence that the defining difference between them will always come down to the driver.

The long wheelbase boys would never understand. Until it comes to some corrugations. lol

Thanks for the kind words!

Originally Posted by AndyG

Or James Bond

James who?

I've got 74,000KM on my march 2013 110. Only ever been on a truck once for a busted turbo hose

I have had my 130 since February 2015 - 6500 km so far and not a single problem!

9 months and 15,000 kms on the 90 and plenty of problems. I've caused every single one of them.