EV general discussion

**Captain_Rightfoot** · 2nd December 2025, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

So we are back to attacking the person again. So sad. You are the one that keeps saying the batteries last xxxx number of kms. I have never said that. I have always said "I've never owned a lithium battery that lasts longer than 5->8 years regardless of usage". I talk longevity you keep talking milage.

I never said every EV catches fire, I've said the statistics being thrown around and incredibly suspect, and the ramifications of fire are huge. The burning issue (yes I said burning) is hwo the hell will the world handle 20+ milliion aging degrading battery packs in the future without torching off half the planet. Even if only 1 in 100,000 burn ... that is giong to set of all the "recyling" (or should we say storage yards) all over the world like clockwork. Just like is currnetly happening all of the battery plants that recycle small lithium batteries.

Try all you like to make me out to sound like a luny nut case. Twist my words, I don't care. I am however not going to agree with stupidity, and everything we are doing at the moment is utter stupidity.

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

See what I mean, stupidity. The car is now 18year old. I would be coming to the end of life for probably the 3rd battery (at $20,000++++ EACH). Just nuts. Cruising the country roads like she is with a group of friends. closer to 5.5 -> 6 L/100. Its a 2.0 turbo diesel with a 6spd manual gearbox. Waaaaayyyy cheaper than an electric flambe to run.

I can't be bothered going further back than this.

Even the older NCA and NCM batteries it looks like they will last a long time. The newer LFP chemistries are expected to be even more durable.

https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/h...atteries-last/

**Captain_Rightfoot** · 2nd December 2025, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

Are you feeling ok? Do you need to sit down for a bit. Why do you think all EVs catch fire?. I think you might need a cup of tea. Would you believe prices fluctuate. I'm sure you'll feel a bit better after a little rest.

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

where on earth are you paying $2.00 a litre for diesel. Its been around $1.70 here forever. The super charger is 77cent/kw. but will still take you probably an hour for a full charge (rather htan 5 minutes). Just amazing technology

So you are going to drive aroudn for hours desperately searching for cheap or free chargers. Sounds like a fun holiday. Who give a crap about C02, its a trace gas ... absolutely irrelevant in this scenario. So the electric throw-away has ... lost 80% of its value in the last 5 years.... and the defender has likely appreciated quite a lot.

electric throw-aways just sound fabulous....

The prices at the Toowoomba Tesla super charger are sill .54 in peak. The fuel prices are pretty much the same. My calculations stand. Cut with the disinformation.

**DoubleChevron** · 2nd December 2025, 10:17 AM

Did you finally after hundreds of pages think you had found something you could scream "disinformation" at. I don't understand how people deal with the crazy woke.

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Disinformation .... He he cries desperately. I cannot ever be wrong!

**V8Ian** · 2nd December 2025, 11:00 AM

Mod hat on. The hand of god has been hovering over the big red button, for a few pages.
Unless the personal stuff and politics are not wound back, the button will be pressed.

**Tins** · 2nd December 2025, 11:15 AM

Just to lighten the mood. In Sunday’s LR Time ( no link because of the hand of god) Christian quips that, because of the wind down of the EV mandate he is busy in his day job because the manufacturers are busy building V8s again. Take that as you will, but I see it as an indication that people make the market, not pollies. And the market has spoken. People don’t want EVs as much as some might think.
Could be wrong. Time will tell.

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