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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG O View Post
    Would it be safe to say the UK sellers have to pay to import them.as well..? but can still sell them cheaper .!!.
    Im interested in the Chinese copy for that price ..polyethylene is polyethylene unless its polypropylene . I guess it all depends on their skills at moulding .
    Correct, they would, but if they are buying them as greatly reduced wholesale prices and including imports, then it's not an even playing field.
    And any one within a moulding industry would realise it doesn't cost much per item to turn out on a production line in volume. How much do you reckon these $199 Chinese specials actually cost to make? some one is making good money on these.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares View Post
    ........And any one within a moulding industry would realise it doesn't cost much per item to turn out on a production line in volume. How much do you reckon these $199 Chinese specials actually cost to make? some one is making good money on these.
    I used to work for a tier one supplier to Jaguar, Land Rover, Peugeot and others, and we supplied moulded/painted/assembled exterior plastic parts, such as bumpers.

    We used to sell complete, painted bumpers to Peugeot (I use that example as it's roughly a similar plastic volume and plastic type) for £29. And we clearly made money on that sale. A plain plastic moulding for a snorkel is going to much less than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares View Post
    Correct, they would, but if they are buying them as greatly reduced wholesale prices and including imports, then it's not an even playing field.
    And national stores such as ARB or TJM or Opposite Lock would be unable to get the same wholesale prices from Safari Snorkels that the UK organisations can get?

    Either way we are being ripped off by the sellers. Either at Safari's end or at the retailers end.

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    "Some one is making good money on these "! Yeah maybe but I think I would like to save some money on these!!
    I would love to see some pictures of engines consuming snorkels past the air filter too..!!!. Must be getting hard to sell safari if that's the line they're using .

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    Quote Originally Posted by twr7cx View Post
    And national stores such as ARB or TJM or Opposite Lock would be unable to get the same wholesale prices from Safari Snorkels that the UK organisations can get?

    Either way we are being ripped off by the sellers. Either at Safari's end or at the retailers end.
    It is a numbers game with a lot of items like this, you get price breaks depending on number of units bought, UK resellers an naturally going to have a much higher volume due to having a larger market compared to OZ resellers.

    It is not a matter of Australian resellers trying to rip off their market it is that they do not get a big enough price break them selves to sell at the same price of overseas resellers and still make enough money to stay in business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG O View Post
    I would love to see some pictures of engines consuming snorkels past the air filter too..!!!. Must be getting hard to sell safari if that's the line they're using .
    I'm keeping an eye on this thread. I haven't seen him come back to either explain how it happened or appoligize for confusing it with something else.

    Happy Days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    What? Are you a Safari Dealer? How did it go through the engine? Was there no air filter in the air box?

    Sorry if I have misunderstood your comment but it seems very silly to me.
    Ok, poorly written, I was talking about water going through the engine.
    I wasn't suggesting the snorkel had been sucked into the engine!

    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Again, You can buy 3 for the price of one Australian sold Safari Snorkel. That's 6 years worth of snorkels.
    So you would seriously consider buying a snorkel every two years?
    A snorkel is a one off purchase that should outlast the car.

    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Sorry if I sounded a bit abrupt in my last 2 posts that were directed at you but I am offended by your comment......I was offended because I took it that you think I am stupid and would not know that..........
    I never conversed with you in this entire thread, until now - so I can't help you with that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    I have red some of your previous posts.
    Read them, so what?
    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Can you tell us your affiliation with UV4x4, ARB store?
    It's no secret I manage Uv4x4 Enoggera (an ARB & Safari stockist).I'm a long time member here, have supported aulro.com for years, and given sponsorship & support to many events, including the recent Defender day.
    If you'd like me to preface every post with a disclaimer well... negative.

    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    I'm keeping an eye on this thread. I haven't seen him come back to either explain how it happened or appoligize for confusing it with something else.
    Happy Days.
    Not sure why you need to take the tone you have, or be offended, or have a crack at me. Nor what I need to apologise for.
    Anyway, HAPPY DAYS as you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99TD5 View Post
    It is a numbers game with a lot of items like this, you get price breaks depending on number of units bought, UK resellers an naturally going to have a much higher volume due to having a larger market compared to OZ resellers.

    It is not a matter of Australian resellers trying to rip off their market it is that they do not get a big enough price break them selves to sell at the same price of overseas resellers and still make enough money to stay in business.
    I wouldn't be surprised if there are more snorkels on 4x4's here in 'outback Australia' than there are in 'built up Britain'.

    High Australian dollar plays a part in all this. The average Australian does not see 1AUD being worth more or less one day to the next. Stronger dollar, but same familiar prices.

    Look at it from Safari Snorkels Perspective. Over the past decade as AUD has got much stronger the retail price in Australia has become more valuable whilst appearing to stay the same. Expenses for manufacture would have gone down, especially if imported (SSnokrs made in china?). Without having to do much, profits rise and sales remain steady. So why would manufacturer/reseller lower the prices and reduce their profit when the snorkels are still selling?

    This is a case of supplier and reseller working together to get as much profit out of the product as they can in any given market. In the UK you couldn't sell them at the price you can sell them here. Australians are willing to pay more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenianEel View Post
    Ok, poorly written, I was talking about water going through the engine.
    I wasn't suggesting the snorkel had been sucked into the engine!


    So you would seriously consider buying a snorkel every two years?
    A snorkel is a one off purchase that should outlast the car.


    I never conversed with you in this entire thread, until now - so I can't help you with that one.


    Read them, so what?

    It's no secret I manage Uv4x4 Enoggera (an ARB & Safari stockist).I'm a long time member here, have supported aulro.com for years, and given sponsorship & support to many events, including the recent Defender day.
    If you'd like me to preface every post with a disclaimer well... negative.



    Not sure why you need to take the tone you have, or be offended, or have a crack at me. Nor what I need to apologise for.
    Anyway, HAPPY DAYS as you say.
    All good mate, Thanks for the clarification. As I understood it, you ment the plastic of the snorkel had broken down and gone through the engine. As it is quiet obvious to me the air filter sits between the engine and the snorkel, this is just not possible.

    I felt I was being told a left handle hammer cost more than a right handled hammer because left handled hammers are better. Noit only would that be offensive for someone to tell me that and while I have no problem with having a joke with someone to expect a less experinced person to pay more simply because they dont know is just as wrong.

    Thanks for explaining your post.

    Happy Days.

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    Hmmm not sure that I'm not offended..the post sent was directed to me and clearly states " fall apart from the inside and go through your engine" . No mention of water .Claims also to have seen it happen. Well in 30 odd years as a diesel mechanic I've never seen it. send a photo please . I will stand by my later posted comment about it.

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