Thread: Wind boost

Originally Posted by Robmacca

Ron,
I hope you are not referring to me as a reseller?
If so, then you are very much mistaken....

No, sorry, Rob, if that impression was given. There was another bloke, it may have been on PradoPoint.

I just checked, it was 4WD Supplies (I see your report is in the same thread).

Originally Posted by laney

I believe Idid say my d2 was a manual so no sports mode or any thing else I did give thought to a remap but don't trust them and would need convincing of there safety to my motor. As IRead through the posts here there are a lot of different points of view some here need to put their view across a bit more respectfully.

sorry I missed the bit about it being a manual..

Personally...

$200 is a lot to spend to save yourself the exertion required to articulate your foot through an additional 3 inches.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

$200 is a lot to spend to save yourself the exertion required to articulate your foot through an additional 3 inches.

I agree plus, if you can find someone who can remap your ECU, re-calibrating the throttle 'ramp' will be a doddle for them.
It's hard to imagine that they would be able to justify $200 (or the $265 that I see the Windwotsits really cost), if throttle ramp were the only item that you felt needed adjusting.

Worrying about a chip damaging your engine is silly. The number of chipped td5 engines around the world, both mild and wild, is indicative of the engines ability to be worked. Here in Australia, I'd wager there are more chipped td5s than standard. Good quality maps like Inside, Alive, BAS etc have been run on Australlian vehicles for combined kilometers that must be in the tens of millions. A good quality remap, and a sensible operator who is prepared to monitor their EGTs and drive according to the conditions won't damage the engine.
And perhaps it's worth considering that lots of the people commenting in this thread either play with td5s for a living, or have spent tens of thousands of dollars and countless hours testing and developing products for land rovers, including remaps.
Also, if the ridicule of the WindBoost is so offensive to you, perhaps consider exactly why it's being ridiculed.

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I am not affended by the ridicule of wind boost just asked a simple question as stated many here spend many hours working on testing and developing LR parts though this may add weight to their point of views it doesn't make their point any more or less valid then any one else here.

I'm happy to be proven wrong in any way. Just show me the science.
But what I've gathered so far is:
1) It modifies the throttle response.
2) It does not add any power to the engine (and does not magically make the turbo gain 1.21 jigawatts)
3) Butt dyno (uncalibrated) results are favourable
4) Same results considered possible by more liberal application of the right boot.

I'd need more info to be sold on such a device. Others, maybe not so much.

Originally Posted by Tombie

What a fantastic device.
I think every vehicle should have one factory fitted.
Imagine the possibilities..

...funny you should mention this, but yes manufacturers are already doing this. The D2 was well ahead of its time by changing the throttle map between high range and low range. The D3/D4 take this further by having multiple throttle maps available depending on which terrain mode you select. Many modern sports cars select different throttle maps depending on what mode you select (I.e. they will change the throttle response depending on if you select Eco mode or sport mode). In Eco mode they make the throttle less responsive and in sport mode more responsive. Supercars all have the ability to select different throttle maps (and some even adjust fuel maps).

Some manufactures even make their throttle map super responsive to mask performance issues - under normal driving you think they are responsive and zippy until you realise that once above 50% throttle there is no more power available.

On the flip side, some manufacturers intentionally make the throttle map very unresponsive as a compromise. Sounds like the Prado is such an example where they have opted for a throttle map which may be OK for off-road work, but too laggy for on-road use. In US markets this is becoming a common practice to make cars slower off the mark for "normal" driving - good for slippery driving conditions.

All this product is doing is offering this level of customisation to those that are not happy with their stock throttle map.

Certainly not needed with the Discovery (as LR already do this remapping for us since the D2) but probably not a bad mod for cars with less responsive throttles that need to pushed further to the floor to get the response expected. For those that don't drive a Discovery at least they can have some of the features we take for granted - I.e. Select Eco mode when you are in low range or on very slippery roads and want a long throw throttle, and then flip to P1 or P2 mode when you want a short throw throttle. A very cheap option for 4wd's without terrain response mode!

Not sure I get why people are so critical of mods which allow you to customise. Gee I was doing the same with my first V8 Falcon over 20 years ago changing primary and secondary throttle springs and pulley ratios until I found a combination that I liked - not what some Ford Engineer decided I needed. With fly by wire you now do this all with electrickery.

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To be very honest about this, I've had 3 D2 Auto's and one D2 Manual and all TD5's, the manual was by far the most enjoyable to drive, but the autos are pretty fantastic too. I don't understand why anyone would want to remap a TD5 but that's just me. I really really like it just the way Landrover made it, I'm a big fan....