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    ATB Diffs

    I was stoked with my D2 in Cape York.

    Eventually when my diffs give up (320,000 and still quiet...) I might go an ATB or positive locker (Just for a little more control and fun...). I wonder about this video. He was using left foot braking and so ETC turns off and so the diffs don't get the ETC advantage.

    Land Rover Discovery w/CDL & Dual TrueTracs. Why Truetrac Limited Slip Differentials Are Junk - YouTube

    I can't help but wonder if it would have been a better outcome with ETC working.

    Cheers

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    Of course he would. Torsen diffs aren't much use without traction control when you lift a wheel. Torsen plus the traction control is what makes things like the ATB such a brilliant option in the D2
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    Oh not this old chestnut again
    ATB`S might be brilliant but you can not beat positive locking diffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    Of course he would. Torsen diffs aren't much use without traction control when you lift a wheel. Torsen plus the traction control is what makes things like the ATB such a brilliant option in the D2
    Yep I understand that. He does say he was braking which should get the ATB going...mind you he might not know how to drive. Cheers

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    Anyone that was on Outerlimits years ago would remember Sam/Stangerover's Lockless buggy.

    It used TruTracs and Haultech's pneumatic TC, and in comps it would do 99% what a fully locked rock crawler would do.

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    My brother is fitting a electric locker to my mates D2 this week. Keen to see how it goes. It's going on the rear because my mate wants it there but having it on the front when climbing a hill probably makes more sense (ie because of rear load transfer means there will be plenty of rear wheel traction and the front needs all the help it can get with little weight there). Cheers

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    Nothing beats elockers in my opinion. I have a ashcroft atb in the centre diff and its amazing, add to this my front and rear elockers and everything is easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangieman View Post
    Oh not this old chestnut again
    ATB`S might be brilliant but you can not beat positive locking diffs
    Depends what you're doing with them ATB Diffs
    ATBs offer a cheap and effective traction aid for probably 80-90% of the driving people do in D2s, even if only to remove a weak link from the drivetrain.
    For the 10-20% who want to go beyond what others drive then absolutely, a fully locking differential will offer much better control off-road and get you through the tougher spots, but in those cases both the type of driving you're doing and the mods required go beyond the locker itself. I wouldn't want to run a locker on standard D2 axles, whereas I'd be comfortable running an ATB on them.
    And I am aware that anything an ATB will improve off-road a positive locker will probably do better
    But for people who want to do a little bit better without the need for full lockers or the want for the expense of them ATB Diffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangieman View Post
    Oh not this old chestnut again
    ATB`S might be brilliant but you can not beat positive locking diffs
    While this made me laugh out loud...... (Specifically the emoticon head butting the wall)

    I could not have said it any better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    Depends what you're doing with them ATB Diffs
    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    ATBs offer a cheap and effective traction aid for probably 80-90% of the driving people do in D2s, even if only to remove a weak link from the drivetrain.
    For the 10-20% who want to go beyond what others drive then absolutely, a fully locking differential will offer much better control off-road and get you through the tougher spots, but in those cases both the type of driving you're doing and the mods required go beyond the locker itself. I wouldn't want to run a locker on standard D2 axles, whereas I'd be comfortable running an ATB on them.
    And I am aware that anything an ATB will improve off-road a positive locker will probably do better
    But for people who want to do a little bit better without the need for full lockers or the want for the expense of them ATB Diffs

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    With AshCroft Lockers is there still an chance of snapping axles even if care is taking off road?

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