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    Thanks Colin.

    So this update will enable a nanocom to be used on a 2.2 defender.

    Very impressive with the new Sport and L405, keep up the great work

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    Thanks benji

    So this update will enable a nanocom to be used on a 2.2 defender.
    Yes, This new CAN bus coverage capability for the Nanocom Evolution will also include the CAN Bus systems of all years of Defender including the engine managements of the 2.2 and 2.4 litre Puma engine versions as well as the later Bosch CAN BUS ABS system.

    Of course the Nanocom already has coverage of the Puma Defender, written long before we took the Nanocom over, covering both Legacy (Wabco ABS (Optional) and Lucas 10AS alarm) and CAN bus systems (EMS and Instrument Pack) on the vehicle, however in 2011 they changed the ABS to a CAN bus type which is not covered and in 2012 changed the Engine from being 2.4 Litre to 2.2 Litre along with the Engine management.

    However for some as yet unknow reason it seems that the existing software does not fully work on the newer 2.2 Engine management.

    While the new CAN bus coverage will cover all the CAN bus systems of the Puma defenders, we do not intend to remove the existing coverage, but will provide both, and they will share the same licence / unlock code and when we have this Can Bus coverage module finally sorted, as well as all the other little things that have bee added to our small but growing "To Do" list we will also find and fix the problem so that the 2.2 is also supported in the existing covearage.

    Very impressive with the new Sport and L405
    Thanks, most folks do not appreciate that unlike PC based equipment, in stand alone micro processor equipment there is a limit on the amount of code space you have avaliable. By switching to a methodology of writing functionality for diagnostics on CAN bus vehicle systems that will be shared by all vehicle models, we are able to impliment much cleverer and more automated capability using much less code space as well as much more easily include any new models.

    I know that this new CAN Bus coverage may well not seem of that much interest to existing owners using it on Discovery 2's or Range Rover P38's but ultimately it means that the Nanocom Evolution will continue to be of huge value and worth for many years to come, which will ultimately benefit everyone in respect of future resale values.
    Colin
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    I know that this new CAN Bus coverage may well not seem of that much interest to existing owners using it on Discovery 2's or Range Rover P38's but ultimately it means that the Nanocom Evolution will continue to be of huge value and worth for many years to come, which will ultimately benefit everyone in respect of future resale values.
    Thanks Colin, I shall pass that on.

    I'm not sure that d2 and p38 owners won't benifit. I think many are looking at the functionality of the nanocom in relation to vehicles they want to purchase in the future.
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    Colin, is there or could down the line, there be an option for reconfiguring the layout of the instrument screens? For instance, the first screen is temp, rpm, load and revs. If these could be changed (probably by PC interface) to a personal choice. Also (and I know it'll be down the line) but is there a signal for the auto temp that could be used by the Evo or even output to an external gauge?

    There hasn't been anything definitive logged yet, but once I have some decent hours logged I'll add the external power input and see how that goes.

    Finally, I've been looking for an option for the cable at both ends. I want to tuck the OBD end under the dash but maintain the OEM port as well. Is there a T-piece adaptor to achieve this? Also at the Evo end can the cable be cut and the fitting be changed to a 90degree fitting?

    Thanks for the help Colin.

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    Paul/Offtrack did a right angled bend at the Evo end for me and made the cable short so no slack from my chosen mounting point to the OBD port - works a treat and much tidier, so yes it can be done.

    I too would love a variation to the instrument screen info and was previously told by Colin's people that it was not on the radar as it was a major task - if it was possible at all.

    For normal daily instrument mode revs and speed are already available on the dash, and many interested in such things already have a turbo boost and/or EGT gauge.

    I for one think that coolant temp (given the LR gauge is useless) and engine oil pressure are probably the most important, possibly followed by ATF temp?
    Others will have their own views.
    MadMan and TM4 are probably the most common block current instrument additions. I'll say no more because there is another current thread on that, so back to on topic.
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    If talking about D2, I don't think there is an auto tranny temp sensor, just a switch that turns the light on. Also on the V8 at least there is no sensor for oil pressure, again just a switch for the light.

    Now my LR3 (D3) does have an ATF temp sensor. The fluid fill/check procedure actually specifies that you check it at a certain temperature as viewed from a computer.

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    Hiya clubagreenie

    As the instrument mode functionality the Nanocom Evolution provides in addition to regular diagnostic capability utilizes graphic screens that are pre made templates, having the titles and data box sizes and positions of these pre fixed, you can hopefully appreciate the enormity, if not the utter impossibility of trying to make user customisable screens.

    Regards the Auto temp.
    Despite being called diagnostic equipment, it is actually a major misconception that our equipment or any other actually does any diagnosing at all. By it's very definition the Diagnostics is OBD or on Board Diagnostics, which really means it is the vehicle ECU's themselves that do the diagnosing and our equipment simply communicates with them to see what fault codes they have stiored as a result of their own diagnostic abilities as well as to ask them to provide real time information of what they are seeing from their connected sensors.

    If they were never designed or programmed to diagnostically provide some information, there is no way to obtain this information diagnostically.

    We have always specialized in providing equipment that accesses absolutely every possible value that any given ECU can provide, but we simply cannot provide anything the ECU does not diagnostically provide, nor do we provide custom interfacing that could drive any external hardware such as external gauges etc.

    In respect of modifying the cabling and connections etc, there is pretty much no limitation on this, however you should be aware that other than power and ground, the P38 has 7 data connections as opposed to the 1 that the Disco 2 has
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    So Colin, The D2 has only 3 conections? 12v/0v and data?

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    For the Discovery 2 the Nanocom uses both pins 4 and 5 for Ground (0V), pin 16 for Power (+12V) and pin 7 for data.

    For the P38 The nanocom also uses both pins 4 and 5 for Ground (0V), pin 16 for Power (+12V) then pins 13 and 14 for the Airbag, 11, 12 and 1 for the Air suspension, and pins 7 and 15 for all the other ECU's.
    Note some of the other ECU's use only pin 7 and do not require 15.
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    Logging hasn't revealed any interruptions on the 12v/0v lines.

    Adding a power input seems to have alleviated the issue though. But need to get some longer drives that dropping off and picking up the kids.

    Colin, is there potential to have a "power on if external power input detected" line in the code? Normally without the power input I'll either unplug and plug in to start up or hold the touch screen. I have it powered with Ign 1 power, so once power is detected it could turn on.

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