Thread: MOST DANGEROUS 4X4 EVER MADE!

Originally Posted by Celtoid

It would be a very scary situation to be in.....to lose it all at once and just on dark....real bad.

Maybe we're missing something....why the hell would LR put people at risk...and potentially become another Toyota....and get sued legless....when the fix appears so easy?

Yes, we are miss ng a couple of things... firstly, allowing LR to get away with this. We do this by *not* seeking a legal remedy, secondly by *not* bringing it to public attention, thirdly by *not* insisting our motoring organizations, insurance companies and Legislators get off their collective backsides and fulfill their roles.

Bad enough the steering locked up and the engine dying, along with the transmission selector... but at least the hazard flashers should have worked !
- even at 7 volt ...

James the Merciless

Originally Posted by superquag

.. but at least the hazard flashers should have worked !
- even at 7 volt ...

Why????

Originally Posted by superquag

Why do we have steering locks in modern cars ?

Is it a legal requirement for vehicles to have a steering lock ?

- Australian Design Rules ? State legislation ?

Cynical James

Hi superquag, the legislation is for a steering lock but, to my knowledge, it makes no specific reference to how this is achieved.

I have not yet found a specific document covering the requirements.

The longer I think about what could have happened, the madder I get.

This is a $170,000 supposedly luxury vehicle that was turned into a potential death trap because Land Rover elected to use a $2 relay and spring, instead of spending the money to design a fail safe system.

It will be interesting to see how far I get with Land Rover Australia!

And people wonder why i dislike modern engines which rely on electronics.

Originally Posted by superquag

Why do we have steering locks in modern cars ?

Is it a legal requirement for vehicles to have a steering lock ?

- Australian Design Rules ? State legislation ?

Cynical James

Without looking for the ADR, I think that a requirement for a steering lock or equivalent antitheft device has been in the ADRs since about 1980 - that is when Series 3 Landrovers got them.

John

Originally Posted by garrycol

Why????

Because in a vehicle priced at $170,000 I'd expect the hazard lamps -at least - to be LED's, which would glow brighter than ordinary incandescent bulbs at 7.5 volt.
- not expecting search-light brightness, but even a duller-than-normal output could mean the differance between someone blindly slamming into her or barely swerving in time...

I would'nt be surprised if the Hazards are operated via one of the many computers, and a relay or two...All of which work best at 13.683939845 volt as determined by a faceless engineer.

I'm annoyed too... as that new-ish, on-coming RR seems to be drifting a little bit toooo much towards me.....

Originally Posted by Mick-Kelly

And people wonder why i dislike modern engines which rely on electronics.

Which is why I keep my ''rides like a bucket of bolts'' '89 Pajero diesel with its mechanical injection pump.
Put a RR Classic (spring) suspension under her and it would be the better vehicle...

James the Luddite,

'95 Classic with (only one leak ) working Air suspension and nearly working Cruise Control

Originally Posted by garrycol

Next time I have to remove my battery cover I am going to see if the steering lock activates on my RRS when I disconnect the battery - if it does I think I will be writing to Landrover and the organisation that controls safety recalls in Australia.

Garry

Hi Garry, if you try the test, make sure your ignition is turned to the ON position and then disconnect the battery lead.

If your steering locks then there is something very wrong.

I can’t test mine at this time, because I need to find what is pulling so much current before I can test anything.

The really ironic thing is that one of the main reasons I traded my 03 L322 RR in on this death trap was because I had had two front diffs fail and I just didn’t trust the old RR.

And whats even more annoying is that just 3 months after I traded up ( backwards would be a more honest statement ) Land Rover did a world wide upgrade of the diffs at their expense and this included vehicles that were out of warranty.