130km/h speed limits

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Originally Posted by Eevo

we have one side of the argument that basis it argument on fear and scaremongering.


why is it moot?

if the people are demanding 130, being in a democracy, the politicians should be doing what the people want.

instead we have lost control of our govt and the govt doesn't do what the people want.

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What's the fear and scaremongering?

Hopefully for some of us,, it'll only be a minority that want the high speeds,, ;)

Personally I would hope that in order to up the ante of speed, they,, (the Govt) would consider compulsory driver training for all people. To the best of my knowledge this type of training involves attitude/manners as well.

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Originally Posted by Chops

I could be horribly wrong here,,, but the Hume goes nowhere near Wagga Wagga,,, or has someone changed the route and not had the courtesy of informing me,,,, :eek:

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Yep. Wagga Wagga is on the Olympic Highway.
I think the proponents of increasing the speed limit are getting very confused. They started off wanting to drive fron Melbourne to Sydney at 130km/h. They changed it to Wagga to Sydney when they found out the Hume in Victoria was not that good a road.
I reckon by the end of the week they'll only be wanting to drive around Sydney at 130km/h with all the doof-doof's.

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Originally Posted by Chops

Personally I would hope that in order to up the ante of speed, they,, (the Govt) would consider compulsory driver training for all people. To the best of my knowledge this type of training involves attitude/manners as well.

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i think we all want that.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Yep. Wagga Wagga is on the Olympic Highway.

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driving from syd to wagga, the last 50km isnt on the hume. (going by goulburn and yass, etc). ive not taken that other route.

the other 375km is the hume.

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Originally Posted by Chops

I could be horribly wrong here,,, but the Hume goes nowhere near Wagga Wagga,,, or has someone changed the route and not had the courtesy of informing me,,,, :eek:

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https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Sy...+wagga&t=m&z=9

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Originally Posted by Eevo

According to Channel 7’s online poll 60 per cent of Victorian voters wanted the speed limit increased to 140km/h, compared to 57 per cent of viewers from NSW and Queensland.

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Yes, Channel 7. Home of intellectual, balanced thought and debate. Not, at all the home of lowest common denominator screaming rhetoric and popularist dog whistling.

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Originally Posted by sam_d

Yes, Channel 7. Home of intellectual, balanced thought and debate. Not, at all the home of lowest common denominator screaming rhetoric and popularist dog whistling.

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its a start.
its called the idiot box for a reason :p lol

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Originally Posted by Eevo

but it hasnt.




oh really.

i take it you didnt see the phone in poll where over 400,000 people rang in saying they want 130km/h limits.

Almost 400,000 votes in half an hour, majority want speed limits raised.
the tv poll was shown in nsw

Almost 400,000 votes in half an hour, majority want speed limits raised | News.com.au
Australians vote for 130km/h | carsguide.com.au

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According to Channel 7’s online poll 60 per cent of Victorian voters wanted the speed limit increased to 140km/h, compared to 57 per cent of viewers from NSW and Queensland.

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This is a small number of people,,, and like their obviously quick to get to a phone/comp and vote, they're probably just as quick in a car to get up to speed,,
That would also indicate to me, that they probably haven't thought through the consequences of their actions/pitfalls of high speed travel.

I wonder how many of these people have lost loved ones to speeders and other various law breakers, be it attitude overconfidence or whatever, who don't have experience to hang onto a car in an emergency.

People need to remember, Every action has a Reaction.

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Originally Posted by Chops

This is a small number of people,,, and like their obviously quick to get to a phone/comp and vote, they're probably just as quick in a car to get up to speed,,
That would also indicate to me, that they probably haven't thought through the consequences of their actions/pitfalls of high speed travel.

I wonder how many of these people have lost loved ones to speeders and other various law breakers, be it attitude overconfidence or whatever, who don't have experience to hang onto a car in an emergency.

People need to remember, Every action has a Reaction.

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none of what you said changed the fact that people want it.
im not doubting australia (like every country) has a lot of idiot voters out there, but its still their choice.

legislating against stupidity doesn't work and changes us into a nanny state.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Sy...+wagga&t=m&z=9

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Its cool dude,,, I come from Walla Walla, (about 30K just out of Albury), and just down the Rd from Wagga Wagga.