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    My work requires me to drive a GQ petrol Nissan, towing up around 2.5 t or more... - The sweeper alone weighs in at 1.6 tonne, add tandem trailer, fuel/fluids/spares and we may well be over that.

    The previous owner towed it with a '89 Classic on LPG. - Engine was re-built specifically for towing.

    Sure the Rangie rode better, but was out of it's depth when on the freeway. Unsafe, inadequate and relatively gutless. My '95 3.9 is no better with a lighter load...

    Nissan hardly knows it's there, and even when the trailer brakes are u/s, it can pull it up in a controllable 'emergency stop'. There's NO substitute for weight and lots of inches between the axles.

    No apologies, but I have no faith in LR's "superior" legal towing capacity.

    Nissan has done nearly 300K, perfectly reliable apart from the radio dial light and interior light door switches not working. Engine is unstoppable, radiator is original, trans was re-built from PO's neglect or ?
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    And it steers 101% straight... NO steering slack or suspension wander.
    - Only thing I'd change is.... put in a Classic driver's seat. - better support and I'm used to the higher position...

    And gives between 3.6 and 4km/litre whilst working. My classic is 5 to 6km/l used as a d/d.

    Compared to the Nissan in-line 6 cyl diesel or petrol, the Rover's v8 is...fragile and I'd have no faith when in the back of beyond and towing a lot of Money on wheels....

    Rangie is nicer as a D/D and fun-toy. Or Hoon wagon, when it gets going...

    Or put a diesel, any diesel from any make, into a P38. You will appreciate the range from the standard fuel tank. Jerries etc can be a pain in the Sit-Upon.

    Just my personal take.

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    I'd stick with the older vehicle you know.

    I like all the tricks my D2 does but it always worries me when I'm even partly remote.

    My D2 has come very close to leaving me stranded twice in near 40,000km. I drove a Toyota 75 series troop carrier for over 100,000km per year, all over Australia and the closet it got to leaving me stranded was a blown fuse at a servo in Yass.

    Happy Days.

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    Based on the fact that everyone will recommend the vehicle they own and have found suitable, I'll do the same - go for a 101 with an Isuzu conversion. Reliable and easy to work on. . Can't do better than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    Based on the fact that everyone will recommend the vehicle they own and have found suitable...
    Exactly, they're all capable... Go with the one you know.

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    Well, after reading up a bit, I suggest a 300 TDi Defender, well maintained, as long as you don't feel the need to go fast. Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    Based on the fact that everyone will recommend the vehicle they own and have found suitable, I'll do the same - go for a 101 with an Isuzu conversion. Reliable and easy to work on. . Can't do better than that.
    Did you mean 101 (a bit old) or 110?

    I have never owned one but I would, should the situation be right. The 110 with the Isuzu sounds perfect. It'd be what I would call the equivilant to the 75 series Toyota with a 1HZ. No mod cons to break and a filthy mechanical diesel. It's easy enough to fix if in the unlikely chance it doesn't run to a rediculous number of KM without a spanner being put to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Did you mean 101 (a bit old) or 110?
    101 all the way.. The ultimate touring vehicle IMO. With an Isuzu conversion - which I'll be doing on mine, it would be reliable, relatively economical, will sit on 100 all day, handle anything you can throw at it, get looks and smiles everywhere you go, your bed is already made when you pull into camp....

    Have I missed something?

    If you're after life's luxuries like AC, and not having dust in every orifice at the end of a day, then it may not be for you, but I'll take it any day over anything else.
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    Between a D1 and a D2, a D2 with SLS and ACE would give much better performance.

    If getting the D2, then budget for a Hawkeye or Nanocom diagnostic computer.

    Air suspension actually makes for a very stable platform, gives >2" rear lift at the press of a button, and airbags are cheap (ex-UK) and easy to replace.

    If looking at a D2, consider a D2a (2003-04) TD5 model. These had more issues sorted out, look better with the pocket lights and have a bigger intercooler. Upgrades for the TD5 include a VNT turbo as well as remapping, which I'd imagine would give better performance while towing than a V8. I know my D2a TD5 is way more powerful than my Range Rover Classic (3.5V8 EFI) was.

    I suspect you'd use 10-15% less fuel with a TD5 than a diesel Nissan.

    My personal preference is a 300Tdi Defender, and I'd probably get a VNT for long term towing, but you have already said you don't want agricultural.

    While my D2a HSE is comfortable, I prefer the ride, posture and support of the 110 Defender on long trips.

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    Thanks for replies. Some good things to ponder. Without naming everyone, a few answers are: no budget, not important. Agree diesel is safer to carry and longer distance between fills, but that V8 is seductive and I love it. 101 great machine but not what I was thinking at all. As for 4.2 Patrol I get just under 11l/100km in town and country, worst ever was about 14.5L/100km when towing van into v.strong winds. As for maintenance, I'm fanatical about regular and proper servicing.
    Anyway, I will keep Patrol for remote stuff, probably buy a really good driver's seat. Maybe look at seasonal reg'n here in SA so can use it for longer trips to country.
    Reckon I might just get a D1 V8 for around town and driving to work (10km country with some dirt road). Could always use it for short trips away with van.
    So 1 last question for now, what is a D1 like for towing? Van is 1750Kg ATM (i.e. max weight fully loaded, and ball weight is about 200kg). Just beef up rear springs? Anything else? Like I said no budget, so would be prepared to do what is necessary to make sure all is good. Lets face it, they are available at give away prices.
    Cheers all

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    A D1 is rated to 3500kg and could do it with a suspension upgrade and maybe rear airbags to keep it level, but the 300Tdi wouldn't have enough power for steep hills towing a 1750kg caravan, based on my experience. Our trailer is only about 1200kg fully loaded and the Disco is fine on the flat, but slows on the hills.

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