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    There's the argument that the parents didn't bring them up right because the grandparents didn't bring the parents up right and so it goes. Blaming someone else other than who actually did the deed is a futile exercise. Separating the cause of an event from all the events leading up to it is impossible. Here endeth the philosophy lecture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikehzz View Post
    There's the argument that the parents didn't bring them up right because the grandparents didn't bring the parents up right and so it goes. Blaming someone else other than who actually did the deed is a futile exercise. Separating the cause of an event from all the events leading up to it is impossible. Here endeth the philosophy lecture.
    Exactly
    As much as we all like to blame parents they can not watch these idiots 24/7 .
    That old chess nut do the crime do the time . The court systerm is the blame for not punishing correctly all the do gooders say poor kids be nice to them

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    my question is this....

    she survived enough to get onto life support.

    when they turn of the life support if she dies who copes the manslaughter charge.. the drongo on the bike or the person who had to turn the machine off...

    imagine being the person who had to turn the machine off... the penalty should fit the crime. the person on he bike should be made accountable for all costs of life support until the victim expires naturally as well as apropriate compensation to the family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikehzz View Post
    There's the argument that the parents didn't bring them up right because the grandparents didn't bring the parents up right and so it goes. Blaming someone else other than who actually did the deed is a futile exercise. Separating the cause of an event from all the events leading up to it is impossible. Here endeth the philosophy lecture.
    So air crash investigation, program is a waste of time and money. All events have a chain of events leading up to an event. What we need to do is learn from the chain and try to learn from the chain of events when it goes wrong.
    As stated I fell for the family. But again look at the original footage a bike went behind her she did not react at all. Personally I think most would react to the sound. It is hard for the family they have donated her organs. But possibly also release a campaign for self awareness. Should the bikes have been there no. But they were so self protection is vital. My nick name at work for some was. WCSC. = worst case scenario Chris. Do I live in fear not at all, but I do protect myself from obvious situations buy staying alert, definitely a yes. Not all things are predictable but a lot are.

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    As a politically incorrect troglodyte, I believe our generous Social Welfare system is helping breed generations of no hopers. Especially the concept of more kids more money.

    I have no idea if these kids come from a social welfare background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangieman View Post
    That old chess nut do the crime do the time .
    Here's an old chess nut doing time:

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    agree

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    As a politically incorrect troglodyte, I believe our generous Social Welfare system is helping breed generations of no hopers. Especially the concept of more kids more money.

    I have no idea if these kids come from a social welfare background.
    It is easy to be ****ed of and angry but do we want a society as in the Hitler time. but look at were you work, not the best people in western standards. What do you think or propose. Stop people reproducing. In what regions?. What standard do you apply.

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    It's amazing you need a license for almost everything, except to breed.

    Our social welfare system cultivates intergenerational dysfunctional families. But intervention has shades of the stolen generation

    Dunno what the answer is, tough love, work for the dole, more bucks thrown at education
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    it's just a terrible accident really, the lady who died was doing nothing wrong and the lads on the bikes had no intent to actually hurt/kill someone.

    nothing is going to make things better for those kids or the husband and the lad who killed her has to live with that for the rest of his life, fitting punishment would be the traffic offences plus manslaughter through misadventure... trouble is depending on the individual they'll either be very remorseful and try and do something good to correct the bad they've done... or they'll let self hate take over them for what happened and let prison turn them into a monster

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoPaul View Post
    it's just a terrible accident really, the lady who died was doing nothing wrong and the lads on the bikes had no intent to actually hurt/kill someone.

    nothing is going to make things better for those kids or the husband and the lad who killed her has to live with that for the rest of his life, fitting punishment would be the traffic offences plus manslaughter through misadventure... trouble is depending on the individual they'll either be very remorseful and try and do something good to correct the bad they've done... or they'll let self hate take over them for what happened and let prison turn them into a monster
    Or perhaps, like a few others of their ilk, they don't give a rats arse ?

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