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    THE ULTIMATE PUNISHMENT....

    The purpose of human life is to prosper and live happily.

    The function of society is to protect those conditions that allow all individuals to achieve prosperity and happiness.

    Those conditions can be delivered by constitution that prohibits the use of initiatory force or coercion by any person, group or government against any individual.

    Our constitution rests on 6 axioms

    1.Values exist only relative to life.

    2.Whatever benefits a living organism is a value to that organism. Whatever harms a living organism is a disvalue to that organism.

    3.The basic value against which all values are measured is the conscious individual.

    4.Morals relate only to conscious individuals.

    5.Immoral actions arise from individuals choosing to harm others through force, fraud, deception, coercion - or from individuals choosing to usurp, attack, or destroy values earned by others.

    6.Moral actions arise from individuals choosing to benefit others by competitively producing values for them.

    How could these axioms or our constitution be enforced?

    ...through 1. self-defense/deterrent forces and..

    2. organised ostracising systems....Effective ostracism is a more powerful mechanism for justice , restitution and deterrence than any form of force.....and the severest fully integrated ostracism can eventually deliver capital punishment through suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Trout and Pickles we are never going to agree on this stuff but that is OK. And moaning about sentencing on here isnt going to help. I honestly think you should become part of an action group and lobby government. Alternatively you could go study Criminology and enter the system and work hard from the inside (come out of retirement Trout...you known you want to).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    The official crime statistics for Victoria are here:

    Homepage - Crime Statistics Agency Victoria

    Found this site useful for NSW.....
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    The sky is falling.
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    Not up here, it is burning. But we will get thru it, with a little help from our friends. Africans and all.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Well Bob, I know others often disagree with me, & fair enough, because it's only my opinion after all, but when I see what's happening down here that's the opinion I have.
    The item you raised?..."Stuffed" could be the biggest under statement of all time. I fear what is going to happen.
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    We all have a right not to live in fear. It can't be healthy, please try not to obsess on it.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    We all have a right not to live in fear. It can't be healthy, please try not to obsess on it.
    I'm not obsessing, I never obsess about anything on here, but this is BIG drama, all of these guys that may get out are undoubtedly guilty, the ramifications of them getting off scott free is not a pleasant thought.
    Pickles.

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    As I understand, it's maybe about a lawyer having a conflict of interest, resulting in dodgy verdicts. I assume the people will be retried.

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