Thread: Welfare. Can't Get A Job,..Yeah Right.

Yep I've seen Korean students ripped off while fruitpicking.

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Don't get me wrong I dont want to see anyone ripped off , but it's a fine line, make to to unviable and we will see all our fruit come from oversea's , like a lot of other industries that have gone that way.
I look at the fishing companies and see we are 1 of the last fisheries that are still employing majority australian workforce. Most of the other fisheries are going all Indonesian crew.

As for the backpackers spending most of the money yes and no - think the Darwin council is owed about $1 million from all the fines not paid by backpackers camping in any park or reserve they like , where as the grey nomads are left to pay the price of the van parks because they are able to be traced to a residence in Australia.

I don't know what it's like elsewhere but from what I see up here, they should be made to contribute like everyone else who uses the infrastructure in the country - fair enough give them back the super but tax is tax. Most have quickly worked out that if they go to a hospital in this country they don't get turned away or asked to pay like elsewhere.

Just my view on things as I see it.

Cheers Ean

If they paid their fines the money would be wasted by the Council, leaving less to be spent wisely by private enterprise, including fisheries.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

If they paid their fines the money would be wasted by the Council, leaving less to be spent wisely by private enterprise, including fisheries.

I would rather the council have the extra million to waste than keep slugging me more each year just to have some money to waste.

Cheers Ean

Originally Posted by Ean Austral

Don't get me wrong I dont want to see anyone ripped off , but it's a fine line, make to to unviable and we will see all our fruit come from oversea's , like a lot of other industries that have gone that way.
I look at the fishing companies and see we are 1 of the last fisheries that are still employing majority australian workforce. Most of the other fisheries are going all Indonesian crew.

As for the backpackers spending most of the money yes and no - think the Darwin council is owed about $1 million from all the fines not paid by backpackers camping in any park or reserve they like , where as the grey nomads are left to pay the price of the van parks because they are able to be traced to a residence in Australia.

I don't know what it's like elsewhere but from what I see up here, they should be made to contribute like everyone else who uses the infrastructure in the country - fair enough give them back the super but tax is tax. Most have quickly worked out that if they go to a hospital in this country they don't get turned away or asked to pay like elsewhere.

Just my view on things as I see it.

Cheers Ean

Mate you really need to watch the program and see what the govts "plan" is.
How's the incentive going to increase if the tax rate is a flat 32% for any backpackers working and now the latest idea is 19% income tax and 95% tax on their super? Now according to the ABC they represent about 85% of seasonal workers up your way, how will a 20% tax effect numbers? Maybe loose 10% of them or more?
Federal Government's latest backpacker tax review gets underway - ABC Rural (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

In this article some are talking a 40% reduction already! How much would a 40% reduction in backpackers looking for casual work affect your area?
Lower backpacker tax rate welcomed, superannuation changes slammed - ABC Rural (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Originally Posted by frantic

Mate you really need to watch the program and see what the govts "plan" is.
How's the incentive going to increase if the tax rate is a flat 32% for any backpackers working and now the latest idea is 19% income tax and 95% tax on their super? Now according to the ABC they represent about 85% of seasonal workers up your way, how will a 20% tax effect numbers? Maybe loose 10% of them or more?
Federal Government's latest backpacker tax review gets underway - ABC Rural (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

In this article some are talking a 40% reduction already! How much would a 40% reduction in backpackers looking for casual work affect your area?
Lower backpacker tax rate welcomed, superannuation changes slammed - ABC Rural (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

I use backpackers weekly as casual workers, the tax increase you speak of will have little to no affect in my view as they are leaving Europe and other countries where there is 50% or more unemployment in there age group and with the open boarders policy it's getting worse not better.
Who knows if it does have the affect that people are talking of, then it may get rid of the shonky employers as they will have a choice of places to work.

They come here and don't want to leave because in this country they can atleast have a life and a chance of getting something or at the least having money to fund there next holiday.

My view is tax them fair and make them pay for their time here, if they leave and back packers don't come in future ,then maybe we will have even less people saying how hard it is to find work because there will be more work available.
My views again of course.

Cheers Ean

Interesting thing about backpackers tax, they get it all back once they do there return. Only in the country a short while. I'm not sure how much tax is retained by the ato, but a few that have gone through this area have said they get all back.

This economic committee recommends a major overhaul of the working holiday visa program.
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...economy-report


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