Thread: 20 dead in Texas Church shooting

Seems this has been accepted that this sort of thing is part of their right to "be Free " . The guns are just part of overall thought that this makes individual's independent of government. Which is funny in a way. Speed limits/road rules etc are accepted as being in best interest of all and for compromise of living in a communal society. But guns they seem to be the ultimate definition of an individual right taking precedence over communities right to safety. Just spent a month with young Texan Engineer. Working here in Oz. She watched Las Vegas shootings etc. Not once did thought that maybe, just maybe something in America is out of whack. She went home- to go shooting. I reckon a lost cause

Originally Posted by Meccles

Seems this has been accepted that this sort of thing is part of their right to "be Free " . The guns are just part of overall thought that this makes individual's independent of government. Which is funny in a way. Speed limits/road rules etc are accepted as being in best interest of all and for compromise of living in a communal society. But guns they seem to be the ultimate definition of an individual right taking precedence over communities right to safety. Just spent a month with young Texan Engineer. Working here in Oz. She watched Las Vegas shootings etc. Not once did thought that maybe, just maybe something in America is out of whack. She went home- to go shooting. I reckon a lost cause

no, they see it slightly different.

driving a car, it gets you to work faster, etc. but occasionally people crash and die. its an acceptable risk

everyone having a gun, it allows you to be free, etc. but occasionally people go nuts and people die. its an acceptable risk.

Originally Posted by Eevo

no, they see it slightly different.

driving a car, it gets you to work faster, etc. but occasionally people crash and die. its an acceptable risk

everyone having a gun, it allows you to be free, etc. but occasionally people go nuts and people die. its an acceptable risk.

You've hit the nail on the head Eevo, best explanation of the situation I've heard. It also explains why there is no hysteria over the road toll in a country where fatal road accidents are reported in terms of how long they are delaying the commute.

Regards,
Tote

Glib remarks seem even more so, when the human cost is taken into account.

Texas shooting: Death sweeps across 3 generations of a single family gathered at church

Originally Posted by bob10

Glib remarks seem even more so, when the human cost is taken into account.

Texas shooting: Death sweeps across 3 generations of a single family gathered at church

Just goes to show how little the average American values a human life that isn't their own or of their immediate family.

Originally Posted by bee utey

Just goes to show how little the average American values a human life that isn't their own or of their immediate family.

I would disagree with that.
Don't care where it is, human life is human life.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

I would disagree with that.
Don't care where it is, human life is human life.
Pickles.

That may be true. But if it came to a choice between my family and yours... (well you can see where this is going)

If the majority of Americans consider that these mass shootings are an acceptable risk to ensure their what many perceive as their God Given right to bear arms then this sort of thing will continue to happen.
I would presume that IF eventually enough people are directly affected by this form of violence then public perception towards gun ownership in the US will eventually change enough to change the currant ease/laws of obtaining military style firearms so that this will be prevented or at least become a rare event instead of quite a common occurrence as it is now.