Thread: DPF's the end of diesel cars in cities?

Originally Posted by pop058

Any particular part of 6b) that requires clarification ??

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Thanks for letting me know....

But...Political means relating to the public affairs or government of a country..

So when I said fossil fuel vehicle will cost Medicare more money than electric vehicle, it is political already...Right?
Well I didn't know that

"DPF being a bad idea" is also related to government regulations......

Getting back to the original poster, I saw a very good YouTube recently explaining the different ways of activating and executing a DPF clean.

IMHO by far the most efficient and sensible method is that used by GM which has an additional injector sited on the DPF which sprays fuel onto the hot DPF which ignites and cleans it.

I can only guess why Land Rover uses their strange method which risks oil dilution. Maybe the GM way is protected by patents as it seems to be what someone would first think of to do it.

There are also lots of videos that show clogged DPFs being dismantled and cleaned . Seeing the cost is so horrendous, there will be a growth of businesses that will recover DPFs. John Cadogen suggests that a Toyota DPF costs $14000!.

So it is early days yet.

Regards Philip A

This is not what I saw but explores the differences in operation.
DPF: The Time Bomb Under Your Diesel - Diesel Power Magazine

NOW9RAW: Electric Japanese supercar does 0-100 km/h in 1.9 seconds If it sounded like a SBF I might buy one

Hyundai's hydrogen-powered Nexo: The future of driving? | Stuff.co.nz

Originally Posted by martnH

Whats wrong talking politics anyway....
As long as no personal attacks involved...

For the record, I an just stating the fact that USA drop bombs using predator drones so following the same logic, they will want some tesla-like self piloting remote-control ground vehicles.
So there must be huge money going into EV R&D.

You could say....

The US Military has been looking into and doing a lot of R&D on, the development of EV land based, self piloting, ground vehicles.

Therefore you believe there would be significant funds going into such development which will likely drive forward the technology.

See...

Phillip,

The D5 doesn’t even have a DPF... so they’ve negated that issue completely.

I have been thinking about electric cars etc.
I can recall reading that US Tesla owners have on average 4 other cars, so they can pick and choose between their virtuous Tesla and their non virtuous pick up truck.

In inner cities of Australia the luxury of parking for a number of cars does generally not exist. My guess is that the same situation as the US exists in OZ where the Tesla is just one of multiple car choices for the rich and spoiled.

While electric cars may take over the instant rent type market , IMHO this will not become general. Even inner city hipsters may desire to go bush by travelling to an outer suburb , say Katoomba or Berri for a latte. So I can see that the majority of inner city types will still want to own a car that they will be sure of getting home in. Maybe they will own an electric car ( or hybrid) but hire a IC car , but then they won't be available form instant renters.

Hydrogen is IMHO a pipe dream. This has been around a very long time and gone virtually nowhere. Perth ran a fleet of Hydrogen buses for a while 20 years ago and they failed because of the difficulty and expense of providing 99% pure hydrogen. This was told to me by the ex MD of British Oxygen who listed is as his greatest disaster.

I think the future is in Hybrids , maybe with a small turbine or advanced IC engine to charge . Apparently diesels are too abrupt and noisy and now to be banned in EU and UK , although I think LR now have a diesel hybrid. The most sensible solution IMHO is the plug in hybrid ie able to be charged while driving or plugged in. There are kits available in the US for Prius currently . LOL.

Even in India there are a number of electric Tuk Tuks at tourist attractions like the Taj Mahal and of course the short distance cyclo which uses no resources other than human. I saw a suspicious number of the tiny TATA cars gathering dust on sides of road. My guess is they were the air driven ones . This of course interspersed with millions of million KM trucks spewing pollution everywhere.
Its going to be interesting as often technology doesn't go in the direction expected.
Regards Philip A

The D5 doesn’t even have a DPF... so they’ve negated that issue completely.

So is the other thread on AULRO about oil dilution in Millennium engines due to DPF regeneration a fairy tale?

Regards Philip A