Thread: Goodnight Diesel. ...Land Rover get your EV skates on!

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Imagine Joe the local fisho from Coffs off to Urunga at 80km/h in his rusty ute and a convoy of linked Tesla Semis doing 110 km/h comes whispering up filling his mirrors. It would be brown underpants time!

We already have these, it's called a train, if the govt really wants to make an impact on climate change, fuel efficiency, etc. they should ban container trucks travelling parallel to the train lines. Don't believe the " but trucks make it quicker door to door" nonsense, hardly anything travels like that, especially not in containers, it all goes to depots/distribution centres to be broken up into smaller loads, which is why you don't see semi-trailers making e-bay deliveries in the suburbs, but to get this thread back on track, electric trucks would be a lot quieter in the suburbs, my vote goes for electrifying the weekly garbage collection trucks first.

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

*Light vehicles (ICE) in Australia account for what percentage of our (Australia's) emissions?

According to this site:
In 2016, light passenger and commercial vehicles produced over 59oMt CO2-e, which accounted for 61 per cent of emissions from the transport sector and over 11% of all greenhouse gas emissions produced in Australia.
https://www.greenvehicleguide.gov.au/pages/Information/VehicleEmissions

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

*Light vehicles (ICE) in Australia account for what percentage of our (Australia's) emissions?
*medium/heavy vehicles (20 year old as older trucks used for port to distribution) in Australia account for what percentage.
*Coal fired power stations account for what percentage.
*Exporting coal accounts for what percentage.
*So out of all the above, the focus is on the smallest emissions generation.
*It makes no sense, its the next blind consumer fad, just like bottled water and owning a turbo diesel vehicle. (both of which are to the detriment of peoples health and the environment).

*And I put this part out on a line by itself in the hope people as consumers may just stop for a minute and think about this.
*The human and environmental cost of mining precious/rare metals.

The EV revolution about to happen has nothing to to do with Australia. Nor Coal , nor where the Electricity comes from. As far as Im concerned we don't have a pollution problem. One decent bushfire trumps vehicle emissions anyway. People keep saying Australia is not ready for EV's and they don't want them.

They are not being actively sold & people are actually being discouraged from buying them.

Yes I accept that and thats thanks to our anything but forward looking succession of governments . AND , since Australia no longer has Automotive manufacturing industry , thanks to the same pollies , we have no choice . EV's are coming weather we are ready or not.

If I were in an Automotive repair business I'd be jumping on board now. Even better for the environment than new EV's are ICE vehicles converted to EV's & there is a burgeoning market to capture.

It's not just that it doesn't even meet the soft standards the Chinese development agencies adopt in terms of environmental impact, at a very basic level the numbers simply don't add up. And on top of that, the assets they are trying to borrow to build will be worthless, and that's sooner rather than later.

The Chinese are building thousands of Coal Fired power station both in China and Africa.

It's only the political environment in Australia slowing down construction.

Last week the owner of a Coal Fired Station in Victoria announced that he was planning to build 2 more. He has done really well selling power into the shortfalls from no wind no sun.

I get frustrated by posters only posting half stories. Like the poster who used Norway as a poster boy , only telling half the story of "WHY" and the why is that the Norwegian Government has chosen to give huge windfall profits to EV manufacturers by subsidizing EVs so that they are much cheaper to buy and run than ICE, and yet 70% of EV owners still choose to own an ICE vehicle as well.

Regards Philip A

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

You get a 15 amp charging point for your residence as part of the purchase deal, but they can recharge at any power point, it just takes longer.

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As for one of the smallest vehicles,the very latest Nissan leaf,takes two days to charge fully on a normal power point,very impractical for many.

A 15A dedicated circuit is an absolute minimum,with many needing 32A for practicality.

As for trucks,i wonder what sort of power they need to charge?

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

*And I put this part out on a line by itself in the hope people as consumers may just stop for a minute and think about this.
*The human and environmental cost of mining precious/rare metals.

Good reason to mine for these minerals in a first world country like Australia where miners have to at least make a token effort to protect the rest of the environment.

The biggest graphite mine in the World is just starting up in Madagascar owned by an Australian company .
As you are probably aware Graphite is an essential part of Lithium batteries.
Owned by Syrah resources. (SYR). Have a look at Hot Copper for discussion.

Regards Philip A

Tesla has jacked up the prices of its Superchargers around the world, having last week cut its workforce and ended its long-running referral program

.Discovered

by

Electrek

and confirmed by the company, fee increases of 33

per cent

are being reported on Superchargers in some American states. In Australia, the average price for charging will jump from $0.35 per kWh to $0.47 per kWh

.Speaking

with

CarAdvice

today, a

Tesla

spokesperson confirmed pricing is being adjusted to "better reflect differences in local electricity costs and site usage"."As our fleet grows, we continue to open new Supercharger locations weekly so more drivers can travel long distances at a fraction of the cost of gasoline and with zero emissions," the statement says."As has always been the case, Supercharging is not meant to be a profit

centre

for Tesla.”

Regard sPhilip A