Corona Virus

**NavyDiver** · 6th August 2021, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by 4bee

You got a few young-uns Preggers for the first time? Time you took yourself in hand Matey.

Not a pedo promise

Happy to help in elimination of those. Jury duty volunteer violence is just to simple

Had a bugger me moment when I realized the shows not over till the proverbial. Yep forgot to report the very very very very very very important bits. How many we received, gave to other sites, got from other sites.... injected * 2 as pages for each of the AZ and pfizer

then several more really really important bits that delayed the 2nd drop for a bit.

Unfortunately our accounting skills are a fail. Staff asked to check and tell me exactly how much in left in my fridges seem to have double counted one type and under counted the other. I did put a note that marking myself an accounting failure for getting that vital information to some one some where for some thing

The second act is in hand _ Cheers all

**V8Ian** · 6th August 2021, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

If you think that a constitutional change to make this possible has the slightest chance of being approved, I have a bridge to sell you!

As the saying goes "Politics is the art of the possible".

Oil! That's my bridge John.

**4bee** · 6th August 2021, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Arapiles

I have a close association with Mt. Arapiles ....

I went to boarding school with about half of Cobden so I may know your Uncle Alex.

Probably not. He was the Anglican minister (Ex-RAAF) at the local C of E church. (? name?) His wife was a Ballarat girl & I believe had some connection to Western Star Dairies back then. Family owned it or something. No Ian, not Trucks.

I visited him there on a couple of trips to Vic. Later, he was at Natimuk & then later down further towards Geelong. (Inverleigh) I loved those areas of his Diocese.

Ah happy days!

**Eevo** · 6th August 2021, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

If you think that a constitutional change to make this possible has the slightest chance of being approved, I have a bridge to sell you!

As the saying goes "Politics is the art of the possible".

one word:
republic

**Eevo** · 6th August 2021, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by incisor

Pigs arse, pardon my french

sorry but terra australis was colonised by the english not the french.

our federal system is broken and there is only 1 way forward in fixing it.

**Tombie** · 6th August 2021, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Eevo

sorry but terra australis was colonised by the english not the french.

our federal system is broken and there is only 1 way forward in fixing it.

Anarchy?

Civil War?

Apocalypse?

**Arapiles** · 6th August 2021, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Eevo

i agree but disagree.
this crisis has shown the weakness of our federation and how we need to move forward and remove state based decision making.
states should be administrative zones, not legislative silos.

I agree to a degree - I think that we need to go in one of two directions: if we are to be a country first and foremost and not some loose currency union then we need to remove the State boundaries altogether and do what the Japanese did and create new provinces that don't reflect the old political boundaries. For example, it would make sense for the cities along the Murray to be one region, ditto the Mallee areas in SA and Vic.

The alternative is that we have more of the last 100 years, where there's cycles between centralisation (where the Commonwealth is stronger) and regionalisation (where the States are stronger).

Edit: early on it looked like our Federal model was working, because, unlike the situation in the UK with the regions, the States had the resources to deal with Covid and we weren't at the mercy of the failure of a single national government. Similarly, the Cth had enough power that the situation in the USA where the States could effectively ignore the Federal government didn't arise. And then the Cth failed to deliver on their two areas of responsibility, quarantine and vaccines.

**Arapiles** · 6th August 2021, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by 4bee

Probably not. He was the Anglican minister (Ex-RAAF) at the local C of E church. (? name?) His wife was a Ballarat girl & I believe had some connection to Western Star Dairies back then. Family owned it or something. No Ian, not Trucks.

I visited him there on a couple of trips to Vic. Later, he was at Natimuk & then later down further towards Geelong. (Inverleigh) I loved those areas of his Diocese.

Ah happy days!

Well .... depending on when he was in Natimuk, we may have met - because I was the Natimuk postmaster for a while ...

**Eevo** · 6th August 2021, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Arapiles

I agree to a degree - I think that we need to go in one of two directions: if we are to be a country first and foremost and not some loose currency union then we need to remove the State boundaries altogether and do what the Japanese did and create new provinces that don't reflect the old political boundaries. For example, it would make sense for the cities along the Murray to be one region, ditto the Mallee areas in SA and Vic.

i think i'm in love.

**JDNSW** · 7th August 2021, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by Eevo

one word:
republic

A republic is much more likely to be approved than a change to the federation, and I expect it to come about at some time. But this "one word" will not make the slightest difference to the federal system.

And any plan of using the change to a republic to make more than trivial changes to the federation stands about the same chance as a proposal to abolish states. In other words, zero.

The "problem" is not the monarchy, it is not the federation, it is not the electoral system - it is that the vast majority of Australians are very suspicious of major changes and always have been - which is why Federation took forty years to achieve, and was only approved with very specific procedures to ensure any changes had widespread approval right across the country.

And just because you think a change to a republic would fix all evils does not mean everyone, or even a significant number, agree with you.

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