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    I am not quite understanding why bottle shops are exempt from being closed - considered an essential business. Booze is available from Aldi and many Woolies and Coles stores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    The quantities available to the public come under packaged goods, not dangerous goods.
    Click and Collect is also a mail order system and not only local pickup, Aerosols and inflammable goods are treated as dangerous goods in the mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    I am not quite understanding why bottle shops are exempt from being closed - considered an essential business. Booze is available from Aldi and many Woolies and Coles stores.
    The drive through system at a bottle shop is far safer that walking into Aldi or any other supermarket.
    When we had the lockdowns here in the West there was a limit of 1 carton of beer + 1l of spirits OR wine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    The drive through system at a bottle shop is far safer that walking into Aldi or any other supermarket.
    Following that logic, we should also shut all supermarkets and make everyone get their food by driving through Maccas, KFC or Red Rooter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Following that logic, we should also shut all supermarkets and make everyone get their food by driving through Maccas, KFC or Red Rooter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    As for doing what the old timers did during the great depression, Well I predict that 99% of people wouldn't be able to survive a month of that let alone several months of it.
    I think the only thing common between this situation and the great depression is the down turn in the economy. The great depression was a different time, a different era, a simpler time. Most households already had a vege patch and people could go, not too far from their residence, and shoot a rabbit or two. If they bagged a few they could sell them at the pub for tuppence a brace. There was no restrictions on movement, no border restrictions. If you couldn't get work in Sydney you go where ever you liked to find work, even then there was no guarantee.

    Economically there are some comparisons but even so, not the same. As for surviving during the great depression, again some similarities but the limitation on what you can and can't do now are like chalk and cheese. You can't even fish in Victoria at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Following that logic, we should also shut all supermarkets and make everyone get their food by driving through Maccas, KFC or Red Rooter.
    I have to admit to NOT being a fan of the food from those venues so thank the Gods the supermarket stayed open
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tote View Post
    Yep I'm a bit confused, you cant go to Bunnings unless you are a tradie but you can order online and pick up. Would you be fined for leaving your house to pick up goods from Bunnings as they are non-essential? Making it up as they go along? Probably.

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    Like Trout said .. why risk it.
    And it's not confusing .. you're getting confused.

    Do you work in the building trade? are you working? You can't go there ... unless it's essential.
    How is that confusing?

    Bunnings ... not essential to you(unless your a tradie, ie. working)
    Supermarket .. essential, you can go there between certain hours .. etc, blah blah.

    I don't like it ... but I'm not going to claim it's confusing just because I don't like it.



    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    I am not quite understanding why bottle shops are exempt from being closed - considered an essential business. Booze is available from Aldi and many Woolies and Coles stores.
    I can't explain why that would be, but imagine the uproar, and possible legal action options available to the bottle shop operators council of Victoria(or whatever association they have) if many ended up closing down to to financial problems.
    Gov can't allow huge retailers to run their bottle shop sections, but then force close straight bottle shop businesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Following that logic, we should also shut all supermarkets and make everyone get their food by driving through Maccas, KFC or Red Rooter.
    I think 101 .. you're just not getting it.

    it's not a hard concept to understand, and Dan explained it perfectly in many of his conferences recently.

    THE CONTACT TRACING FOLKS CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE MANY PEOPLE GOT THE VIRUS FROM.

    I capitlaised it so you can read it and ingest it and UNDERbloddySTAND it!

    You don't understand this, and you don't understand that .. now it's up there for you to understand ... and for everyone else, that can't understand it.

    The problem with this world is that everyone is only concerned with their personal issues and then places their own spin on the global issue.

    The global issue is, people are catching the virus, and the authorities can't understand where from.
    IF YOU ELIMINATE many potential sources, then it allows them to focus on the places where the source may be.

    So if you don't close the non essential as many non essential sources, makes it more difficult to track down a potential source.

    I'd like some WD40(or whatever) I'd like a few bits and pieces to do some preventative maintenance while I'm out of work too... it's not essential, but would also give me something to do whilst unemployed and just sitting home doing nothing(except browsing internet).
    Is it essential to survival and mental health?
    If not, don't risk it. Simple .. not confusing.
    If so .. then run the gauntlet and do it and risk the fine.

    Govt is not just making this up as they go along, as many seem to believe. They have a chief medical officer getting science from many sources.
    They're trying to eliminate as many contact points to concentrate on fewer source points .. makes tracing easier.
    They can't close everything down.
    People are getting very agitated.
    Govt has to balance the opposing forces of science(medical advise) with community needs.

    It's not really hard to understand, and we now end up in a situation where many folks willingly accept the (IMO->garbage) science of climate change, yet question the science of medical(virology) advise. Why, because it doesn't suit their own specific desires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChookD2 View Post
    I think the only thing common between this situation and the great depression is the down turn in the economy. The great depression was a different time, a different era, a simpler time. Most households already had a vege patch and people could go, not too far from their residence, and shoot a rabbit or two. If they bagged a few they could sell them at the pub for tuppence a brace. There was no restrictions on movement, no border restrictions. If you couldn't get work in Sydney you go where ever you liked to find work, even then there was no guarantee.

    Economically there are some comparisons but even so, not the same. As for surviving during the great depression, again some similarities but the limitation on what you can and can't do now are like chalk and cheese. You can't even fish in Victoria at the moment.
    Yep, fair call. But have a peek into the conditions around the Spanish Flu in 1919/20.
    A more appropriate parallel.
    The lessons now learned from that apply in this situation.

    What happened then is a good wake up call for governments to fully understand, and I'm sure much of the (medical)science will have taken this into account when decisions are being made.

    During the first lockdown phase, I watched a couple of very interesting you tube vids on the topic. Can't remember exactly which one, there are many.
    What was most interesting was the 'politics' of it. Spanish Flu is a misnomer, and named as such even tho it's started in the US, on a pig farm, during the final year of WW1.
    Had nothing to do with coming from Spain, but because Spain was neutral and news coming out wasn't censored, as it was in all other war affected nations.
    So people decided to cal it Spanish Flu, and not Kansas Flu. Also if the authorities called it Kansas Flu, it would lower morale in the US.
    Anyhow, watch it if you think what Govts are currently doing is confusing .. and try to imagine how bad it could be if they followed in the footsteps of previous governments.
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