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    There seems to be confusion as to just what "getting a vaccine" really means.

    In an optimistic view, which is what Faucci seems to be taking, we could have results from a stage 3 trial that indicate that an effective and reasonably safe vaccine has been developed. That is only the first step.

    The next step is to seek and get approval for the vaccine from a drug authority that is satisfied with the Stage 3 data. Typically, even in an emergency situation, this takes months, and if the process is rushed, there is likely to be strong reaction against using it. And it is unclear whether any country outside the USA will accept any approval of their FDA under the present administration, but will need to go through their own processes.

    Next is the need to set up to mass produce it, and the hardware to administer it. Just what is involved will vary enormously between the candidate vaccines. Some will have a manufacturing technique similar to existing vaccines or possibly other drugs, but some require building new manufacturing techniques. One article I read pointed out that one particular drug they were familiar with had nearly 80 steps in its manufacture, all requiring very precise conditions and some crating byproducts or using inputs that could be described as extremely hazardous.

    Then we have to decide on and set up how to administer it. Who gets it first? How many doses are needed and in what order? Does it need special transport and handling procedures? All of these have to be known before administration is organised.

    Now there will be some overlap between these steps, but it seems to me that even if there are stage 3 results published by the end of this year (and that is by no means certain), it is likely to be close to the end of next year before we can expect Australia to be returning to something like normal, and the rest of the world (except for a few countries) is likely to be well behind that. By that time the economic impat is going to be so large that I do not see much prospect of the world looking anything close to what it did a year ago in my lifetime. (say another twenty years)

    I don't think it is an exaggeration to say those times will never return. Looked back on as history, this pandemic will be regarded as a pivotal event of this century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    trump isnt responsible for the (in)actions of the public
    Trump is supposed to be a leader not a disruptor. The public will support and follow a good leader especially in time of crisis and especially in the US where Americans have an innate respect for their President regardless of political affiliation.

    Trump has failed his people big time and ****ed this respect up against "The Great Big Wall", the result is a divided country with quarter of a million dead and counting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    Apparently the Republicans are in power in over half of the States, so there may not be much that a Democratic president can do - as President Obama discovered.
    Gerrymandering is rife there.
    They have no independent Federal or state electoral commission, electorates are set by the legislatures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanoH View Post
    Trump is supposed to be a leader not a disruptor. The public will support and follow a good leader especially in time of crisis and especially in the US where Americans have an innate respect for their President regardless of political affiliation.

    Trump has failed his people big time and ****ed this respect up against "The Great Big Wall", the result is a divided country with quarter of a million dead and counting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    any leader looking for change is going to be a disruptor. most POTUS are.
    Is the plural of POTUS - POTI... 🤣
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Is the plural of POTUS - POTI... 🤣
    That depends.

    If we think the "word" POTUS has a Greek origin, the plural would be POTODES. In the same way that if we used the Greek plural for platypus of platypodes.

    The USA likes to pretend that it is a democracy and Greece is usually seen as the cradle of democracy, so that might be a reason the use a Greek plural.

    However, we don't apply the Greek plural for platypus. We just call them platypuses. So perhaps the plural would just be POTUSes.

    Unless you think POTUS has a Latin origin, in which case you would be correct to use POTI.

    On the other hand, you might realise that POTUS is an acronym and not an actual word, so none of the above is relevant.

    I hope that clarifies things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    That depends.

    If we think the "word" POTUS has a Greek origin, the plural would be POTODES. In the same way that if we used the Greek plural for platypus of platypodes.

    The USA likes to pretend that it is a democracy and Greece is usually seen as the cradle of democracy, so that might be a reason the use a Greek plural.

    However, we don't apply the Greek plural for platypus. We just call them platypuses. So perhaps the plural would just be POTUSes.

    Unless you think POTUS has a Latin origin, in which case you would be correct to use POTI.

    On the other hand, you might realise that POTUS is an acronym and not an actual word, so none of the above is relevant.

    I hope that clarifies things.

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    O bugger XMas?

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    The US has cancelled plans to offer Santa Claus performers early access to a coronavirus vaccine in exchange for their help in promoting it publicly.


    Those who perform as Mrs Claus and elves would also have been eligible for the jabs.


    The festive collaboration was part of a $250m (£192m) government campaign to garner celebrity endorsements of vaccinations once they are approved.


    But health authorities confirmed the advertising campaign had been scrapped.


    Ric Erwin, chairman of the Fraternal Order of Real Bearded Santas, called the news "extremely disappointing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    That depends.

    If we think the "word" POTUS has a Greek origin, the plural would be POTODES. In the same way that if we used the Greek plural for platypus of platypodes.

    The USA likes to pretend that it is a democracy and Greece is usually seen as the cradle of democracy, so that might be a reason the use a Greek plural.

    However, we don't apply the Greek plural for platypus. We just call them platypuses. So perhaps the plural would just be POTUSes.

    Unless you think POTUS has a Latin origin, in which case you would be correct to use POTI.

    On the other hand, you might realise that POTUS is an acronym and not an actual word, so none of the above is relevant.

    I hope that clarifies things.

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    Google Searches For ‘Beer’ And ‘Pubs’ Spiked During Dan Andrews’ Latest COVID Announcement

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