Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by rick130

And a GOP State governor in the US (can't remember which one) has already refused to comply if the incoming Federal administration looks towards a short term lockdown to get the virus under control.
Even a Supreme Court Justice has addressed the Federalist Society (very conservative movement) and said that whatever has been done already in terms of lockdown is an affront to civil liberties and in his opinion illegal.

Incredible attitudes towards your fellow humans.

A number of years ago the Australian historian Gavin Dawes started to write a book on the experiences of allied POW's in WW2 under the Japanese, with a focus on the US experience as they were held across every Japanese territory.
It ended up as an anthropological study, as he stared to compare all the allies and every nation broke down into 'tribe's' and reacted differently.

It's telling that the US servicemen were the only ones that are known to have committed murder of their own men amongst the POW's, and that if men gambled rations and went without no one helped them, that was just too bad and some starved to death.
It's a fascinating read.

Rick, can you recall the title of the book & more importantly the ISBN #?

Originally Posted by rick130

As an ex used to say to me "denial isn't a river in Egypt"

"I dont want this to be so, so I believe it isn't, regardless of facts"
Cognitive dissonance must be through the roof in the US atm.
At a guess at least 70 million people are suffering it looking at voting figures.

I was checking out a US-based frequent flyer/traveller website yesterday and they had an article about where Australia would go next - how long can we keep our borders closed. There were some errors in the story but the comments were feral - on a day when Melbourne had zero cases or deaths and in a week when, on some days, Australia had zero cases or deaths - in other words, had eliminated COVID-19 - but when the US was getting thousands of deaths a day, we were being accused of being an authoritarian country that had lost the plot. I'd like to believe that they were Russian trolls but they probably weren't and I can only conclude that the US is doomed.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Are they having a temperature check before boarding in NZ?

I believe Temp Checks should be mandatory for quite a few months to come even for Intrastate Flights & if the International Borders are going to be relaxed with Xmas & people wishing to visit rellies & friends overseas, I reckon it will all get kickstarted again just when we appear to be on top of it. No, the authorities wouldn't be that stupid.

Would they?

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Are they having a temperature check before boarding in NZ?

Not sure, but the declaration they sign doesn't even ask.

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/covid...ation-form.pdf

Also not mentioned on the info page:

New Zealand safe travel zone | COVID-19 and the border


What I keep thinking is that the lockdown in Melbourne was triggered by a family of 4 who were at least in quarantine, this time there's not even that step to beat.

[QUOTE=rick130;3043385]As an ex used to say to me "denial isn't a river in Egypt" [QUOTE/]


Gotta smile. Do you mind if I use that one here daily?

Coronavirus Victoria: Push for Melbourne CBD recovery gathers pace

Given what we know now about how coronavirus spreads indoors I don't think that this is going to be possible.

One of those companies has their staff working in a buidling that's designed like an indoor canyon - if you sneeze over the side it floats down past six floors of colleagues ....

In my employer's case, the office is open plan and to keep staff at least 1.5 metres apart they can only have two people sitting at each six person pod, so they'd struggle to have even half their staff back in the office.

Originally Posted by 4bee

Rick, can you recall the title of the book & more importantly the ISBN #?

Perhaps this one?


Prisoners of the Japanese: POWs of World War II in the Pacific - Gavan Daws - Google Books

Originally Posted by 4bee

Rick, can you recall the title of the book & more importantly the ISBN #?

I had to Google it Des, mine is packed away with all the other detritus of my old life.
The cover on mine is quite different, it'll be one of the early editions

Prisoners of The Japanese: POWs of World War II in the Pacific by Gavan Daws