Thread: Corona Virus

NSW health gets absolved by this little disclosures possibly. stuff up plus

A senior Australian Border Force (ABF) officer who allowed 2,700 people to disembark the Ruby Princess cruise ship mistakenly believed passengers displaying "flu-like symptoms" had tested negative to COVID-19, when they had instead tested negative for the common flu.

The ABC can reveal that Border Force command only realized the mistake more than 30 hours after passengers — including 13 who had been isolated in their cabins with fever — had left the ship.

The new revelations challenge Border Force Commissioner Michael Outram's assertion in March that NSW Health was responsible for allowing passengers to disembark.
Indeed, the Federal Government has conceded in correspondence to the NSW Special Commission of Inquiry into the Ruby Princess that "practical" permission had been given for passengers to disembark, even if it had not been formally granted.

Originally Posted by trout1105

If it was a member of your family of a close friends death that these people were responsible for would you be as forgiving ??

We shouldn't be in the situation where people have to make that choice.
If they are narcissists/sociopaths throw them to the wolves, there are quite a % of people who are to self centered to care, but a lot of people will be in an invidious position.

Originally Posted by trout1105

If they don't have sick leave available they can always get sickness benefits from centerlink which means they wont starve and they won't be responsible for any more deaths.
The work or starve excuse is pathetic.

Minimum wages, less than full time hours, not game to surrender any seniority earned by accepting all shifts offered, kids, mortgage, car and credit card payments, strugling from one payday to the next.
Social Security? 14 or 28 days waiting before eligibility, delays in processing.
It's no wonder these poor buggers keep working. You do what you have to to keep your kids clothed, fed and sheltered.
I recall a time my truck was having a rebuild done under warranty, the second rebuild in a month. The truck was not earning but I still had payments to make on the house and truck as well as a family of five to keep fed.
I would have worked no matter how ill I was. I was fortunate to pick up casual work stacking new concrete blocks on pallets. If I had to, I would have stolen food for my kids.
In one breath people complain about the number of bludgers, in the next, people who go to work. So many people need to be less self centred and look at situations that folk less fortunate than themselves are in. No-one has the right to judge another's method of supporting themselves or family.

No-one has the right to judge another's method of supporting themselves or family.

As long as they are NOT adversely affecting the health and safety of others I fully agree with you BUT with the workers at the aged care facilities this is NOT the case.
What on earth gives ANYONE the RIGHT to put others in mortal danger to earn a living??

Originally Posted by 4bee

A couple of Prossies I wouldn't mind betting. See if I'm wrong. But not for me Gunga Din. YuuuuuurrrrrrK!

Of the photos that I have seen, at least one of them appears to have absconded from a Zoo!

Yesterday I had a bit of a sniffle. Woke this morning with a bit more sniffle and a slightly sore throat. Even though I am a casual I rang work to inform them I would not be in and was heading in to get the dreaded brain scrap (well feels like it). Dr wrote me off for work for 3 days and it will take upto 72hrs for my results to come back. Fortunately I am in a position to be able to have this time off and I am confident my employer will not just ditch me. I just wanted to do the right thing.

Having said that I can see how some would just turn up in any state of health or hiding symtoms to continue earning a crust. There a many employers who do not give the same loyalty to employees as they give the employer. Casual staff are treated as disposable, there is always someone else looking for a job. This is a sad situation this country finds itself in and there should be some sort of mandate from government to make a certain percentage of employees perm-parttime so they get sick leave and annual leave, even though at a pro rata calculation. I haven't had a holiday in almost 2 years and it was hard enough to go to the boss and say "hey, I'm gunna need some time off in the near future for surgeory".

There needs to be some sort of 'immediate' support for casuals required to isolate. Applying for sickness benefits through Centrelink and waiting up to 6 weeks for a decision, which may not be in your favour, is not the answer.

Originally Posted by trout1105

As long as they are NOT adversely affecting the health and safety of others I fully agree with you BUT with the workers at the aged care facilities this is NOT the case.
What on earth gives ANYONE the RIGHT to put others in mortal danger to earn a living??

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Originally Posted by trout1105

If it was a member of your family of a close friends death that these people were responsible for would you be as forgiving ??

Seems loik they could get 4 years in stir.