Corona Virus

**bob10** · 25th August 2020, 12:01 PM

Getting the coronavirus twice, from the New Yorker. Not so bad the second time, apparently.

Getting the coronavirus again

It’s official: Humans can get reinfected with the coronavirus. The first documented case is a 33-year-old man in Hong Kong who caught the virus at the end of March and, more than four months later, picked it up again during a trip to Europe.

The proof lay in the genome sequencing of the virus from both of the man’s infections, which researchers found to be significantly different. The second strain was one that had been circulating in Europe when he was there.

The theoretical possibility of reinfection does not come as a surprise. “We expected that the immunity to the coronavirus might last less than a year because that’s how it is with common cold coronaviruses,” Apoorva Mandavilli, a Times science reporter, told us.

The man experienced mild symptoms the first time he had Covid-19 but had none the second time — an encouraging sign, and very likely an indication that his immune system had been trained by the initial infection.

If the research is buttressed by subsequent cases, it will underline the need for a comprehensive vaccine. “We can’t just get to herd immunity the natural way because only vaccines may be able to produce the kind of immune response that can prevent reinfection,” Apoorva said.

First Documented Coronavirus Reinfection Reported in Hong Kong - The New York Times

**JDNSW** · 25th August 2020, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by bob10

Don't think that's the reason for the genomic checking. I believe it is purely to see what strain it is, to hopefully trace its origin.

That is correct - but irrelevant to what I said, except that this genomic checking, done as you say to see where it came from, is where we gain the know;ledge about its variability.

What people need to realise is that this virus has about 29,000 bases, only a few hundred appear to be involved in human infection. Changes to anywhere else in the genome is not going to affect the susceptibility to immune response, although they may affect the severity of the disease. (I'm sure it is more complicated than that, but my point is that the vast majority of the genome is irrelevant to whether antibodies are effective against it.)

**V8Ian** · 25th August 2020, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by bob10

Can't wait for the mod's calls after that, should be veeeery interesting.

Purely dependent upon James' contrition.
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Four litres per Mod could induce some wobbly calls, however, a prudent contributor, regardless of role, would treat posting like driving.

**sashadidi** · 25th August 2020, 03:53 PM

Tongue in cheek
Pro Tip: If your state signals the end of stay-at-home orders; it doesn’t mean the pandemic is over, it just means they currently have room for you in the ICU.

**Homestar** · 25th August 2020, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Gav 110

Happy with that.

**4bee** · 25th August 2020, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Purely dependent upon James' contrition.
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Four litres per Mod could induce some wobbly calls, however, a prudent contributor, regardless of role, would treat posting like driving.

Do the ROOLZ allow for Mods to get ****ed while Modding? . Won't the Rockers get upset? Who knows what drunken garbage they might post?

**Homestar** · 25th August 2020, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by 4bee

Do the ROOLZ allow for Mods to get ****ed while Modding? . Won't the Rockers get upset? Who knows what drunken garbage they might post?

Happy for Inc to come and breath test me any time I’m modding.

. I’m only just down the road.

DiscoMick · 25th August 2020, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

That is correct - but irrelevant to what I said, except that this genomic checking, done as you say to see where it came from, is where we gain the know;ledge about its variability.

What people need to realise is that this virus has about 29,000 bases, only a few hundred appear to be involved in human infection. Changes to anywhere else in the genome is not going to affect the susceptibility to immune response, although they may affect the severity of the disease. (I'm sure it is more complicated than that, but my point is that the vast majority of the genome is irrelevant to whether antibodies are effective against it.)

I'm told by my veterinarian BIL, who is an expert in Hendra virus, that there are more than a million coronaviruses with the potential to jump to humans, so this is far from over. Be afraid - be very very afraid.

He trains other vets in how to cope with all this Doomesday stuff.

Diseases like this will wipe out humanity as the climate change and deforestation humans have caused results in diseases exploding and humans being forced into ever closer contact with Nature, which will extinguish the human plague.

So there's a cheery scenario to finish the day.

**NavyDiver** · 25th August 2020, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Purely dependent upon James' contrition.
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Four litres per Mod could induce some wobbly calls, however, a prudent contributor, regardless of role, would treat posting like driving.

I had guessed bundaberg rum might get a look in Ian. Would be good at a central camp site after the driving was done

4 litres per MOD? You gents put sailors to shame. Might need a doctor for the recovery mind you

DiscoMick · 25th August 2020, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Homestar

Happy with that.

I think people who refuse the vaccine, unless there are genuine medical reasons, should be required to home isolate permanently and wear wrist band trackers, until they wake up and stop endangering everyone else with their selfish behaviour.

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