Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by Arapiles

I saw a description of what happened described in The Age a week or so ago and thought that it was a complete non-issue. I don't doubt for one minute that I've been cc'ed to thousands of emails that I haven't read in full.

I agree. Plus the CHO is in an advisory role. Not the one making the decisions here.

Originally Posted by BradC

I don’t think that’s fair at all. The reality is the people on the ground were not given any training let alone appropriate training. They don’t appear to have been adequately screened in the recruiting process. There are always a small proportion of newsworthy muppets and we saw them on the news.

yes true, and if we cant get the hired help to be "safe", what hope to the general public have?

From the NY Times

Hospitals are filling up. Again.

In an ominous sign of the strength of latest coronavirus surge, hospitals across the U.S. and Europe are reaching capacity at a rapid pace.

In Idaho, a 99 percent-full hospital warned that it may have to transfer Covid-19 patients out of state. Medical centers in Missouri and North Dakota have turned away patients in recent days because they had no room. In Poland, the government converted the country’s largest stadium into a temporary field hospital with room for 500 patients. Hospitals in France have started to postpone nonemergency surgeries, while others have called back staff on leave.

More than 40,000 people are currently hospitalized with the coronavirus in the United States, a number that rose by 40 percent in the last month. In Europe, the rate has been steadily climbing for weeks, and people across much of continent are now more likely to be hospitalized with Covid-19 than those in the United States.

The hospitalization rate is one of the best real-time measurements we have of the pandemic’s severity. While infection numbers depend heavily on an area’s testing capacity, seriously ill people tend to enter hospitals whether they’ve been tested or not.

Currently, hospitalization rates in both the U.S. and E.U. are lower than they were during spring and summer surges. But the sharply rising numbers are concerning because they are hitting areas with smaller hospital systems with fewer resources.

A prime example of this in Europe is the Czech Republic, where the current hospitalization rate is worse than Britain’s at its peak. Physicians across the country are worried about a shortage of staff, and in some regions, they say that 10 percent of the medical staff is in quarantine.

In the U.S., the virus is ravaging rural areas, where residents must rely on hospitals that may have only a handful of beds. Patients are now more broadly spread across the country, and unlike when the virus was largely concentrated in New York, there are few nurses or doctors who are able to leave their jobs to help in other regions.

It’s not just hospitalizations: The death rate has started trending upward as well. And a new study found that nearly 130,000 deaths from the virus could be prevented in the U.S. through next spring if everyone wore a mask.

I see there is now a prediction based on modelling that US deaths may more than double to 500,000 by February. Tragic!

The US had its highest daily number of new cases yesterday EVER, i.e. since the whole thing began in January.

United States Coronavirus: 8,747,864 Cases and 229,292 Deaths - Worldometer

Scroll down through the graphs to 'updates'.

As Red90 pointed out there are some 229,000 deaths due to Covid in the US, but 299,000 ish 'excess deaths' from what would normally be expected without Covid over the same period........... so the the whole thing there is probably (unintentially) underestimated.

DL

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I see there is now a prediction based on modelling that US deaths may more than double to 500,000 by February. Tragic!

Please assure us all that Prof Neil Ferguson is in NO way involved in this ...'modelling'.

Originally Posted by 350RRC

The US had its highest daily number of new cases yesterday EVER, i.e. since the whole thing began in January.

United States Coronavirus: 8,747,864 Cases and 229,292 Deaths - Worldometer

Scroll down through the graphs to 'updates'.

As Red90 pointed out there are some 229,000 deaths due to Covid in the US, but 299,000 ish 'excess deaths' from what would normally be expected without Covid over the same period........... so the the whole thing there is probably (unintentially) underestimated.

DL

Anything to do with UN-PRECEDENTED number / rate of Testing ?

While numbers will be on the move, as at Week 41 of 2020 over the pond in Blighty, they're getting away with a much lighter hit than the Yanks.

ONS Statistics: Normal Mortality Rate and NO PANDEMIC

Interesting graphs from the Office of National Statistics - ONS

(Figures apply to England and Wales... still dunno why the Scots & Nth. Ireland are left out....)

The excess deaths are literally the smoking gun.

DL