Thread: Covid Mk ll

Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

Actually it’s the other way around. People getting their info from social media such as AULRO should not necessarily be so sure of themselves.

EG: AstraZeneca vaccine and international travel: Will Europe and US allow Australians to enter?

“The European Medicines Agency (EMA), the body that evaluates and regulates medicinal products within the EU, has authorised only four vaccines for use. While the Pfizer vaccine – under the name Comirnaty – is one of those, the AstraZeneca vaccine dispensed in Australia is not.”

You proved my exact point by posting that - relying on an article that cherry picks information to scare people into thinking something is an issue even if it's not.

If you look at the way that article is written, then it is clearly a piece click bait - if you look at the first paragraph and understand he words "They don't at the moment" and a bit further down "Is that likely to present a problem for Australians who have been vaccinated here with AstraZeneca when they travel around Europe? Probably not."

So it's just a puff piece designed to get clicks for its advertising. Have you even looked at the EMA's website to understand what their processes are? Probably not - that's my whole point - do some additional research and look at the sources being quoted to get a bigger picture.

Based on the headline people are probably running off telling their Neighbors that we won't be able to travel to Europe because of this - in fact we can't travel to Europe currently because we're a nation of mainly unvaccinated people with a huge uncontrolled outbreak at the moment. By the time we can travel, the AU produced variant will have been run through their approval process - there is currently no need to do that and if you read their website and understand how they have proritised the approvals, it's been based on when people will need and be able to travel there - Australia isn't in the picture for that yet, so it's further down the list is all.

So my point stands - don't rely on news articles and social media for your information - it leads to inaccurate conclusions a lot of the time.

Originally Posted by Homestar

It is based on who I was replying to with my point there - and it is when you see the misinformation that is rife on Social Media - including here at times. I listen to the likes of the TGA & ATAGI - not Marge from 2 doors up who heard from her Daughters friends friend that AZ is terrible and we shouldn't go near it...

They have very good websites so no reason anyone who can use Faceplant, etc can't find this information - they just don't want to.

There are plenty of reliable OBVIOUS sources for this information, it's just some people don't want to hear it - and I can't help that.

Just STOP it Homie Old Mate, How dare you use common sense and reality in this thread.
You have No idea the amount of amusement many of us get from reading the "Flat Earthers" pathetic attempts at pushing their agenda with their unsubstatiated/ill reasurched posts do you

Originally Posted by trout1105

Just STOP it Homie Old Mate, How dare you use common sense and reality in this thread.
You have No idea the amount of amusement many of us get from reading the "Flat Earthers" pathetic attempts at pushing their agenda with their unsubstatiated/ill reasurched posts do you

You said it - I was just thinking it...

Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

Actually it’s the other way around. People getting their info from social media such as AULRO should not necessarily be so sure of themselves.

EG: AstraZeneca vaccine and international travel: Will Europe and US allow Australians to enter?

“The European Medicines Agency (EMA), the body that evaluates and regulates medicinal products within the EU, has authorised only four vaccines for use. While the Pfizer vaccine – under the name Comirnaty – is one of those, the AstraZeneca vaccine dispensed in Australia is not.”

Latest information I could find with a few minutes to spare on the googles. The article that you quoted had a few clues that things would be likely happening to remedy the situation back in July.

TGA approves name change of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca to VAXZEVRIA | Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)

Interestingly, AstraZeneca is currently the most widely accepted vaccine for overseas travel according to the Economist.com.



I would expect the US will eventually come on board when they want to re-establish free movement from the UK and Canada.

For when we can travel abroad again - handy vaccine checker can be found here:

Vaccine Checker: Which Vaccine is Approved for International Travel?

Sadly I won’t be able to travel to the Democratic Republic of Congo for some time as I had Pfizer

AstraZeneca still remains the most widely accepted vaccine, but more approvals will come for this and Pfizer.



Obviously getting the Australian manufactured AZ recognised as the equivalent to the European AZ is the next step.

Originally Posted by windsock;[URL="tel:3108666"

3108666[/URL]]Latest information I could find with a few minutes to spare on the googles. The article that you quoted had a few clues that things would be likely happening to remedy the situation back in July.

TGA approves name change of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca to VAXZEVRIA | Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)

Correct, however as the article says, the name change doesn’t come into affect until late 2021 - potentially too late for the 70-80% who want to travel OS on Aussie AZ.

So when the article I posted says “at the moment” it is perhaps correct and not ‘click bait’’ at all.

Originally Posted by DiscoDB;[URL="tel:3108701"

3108701[/URL]]For when we can travel abroad again - handy vaccine checker can be found here:

Vaccine Checker: Which Vaccine is Approved for International Travel?

Sadly I won’t be able to travel to the Democratic Republic of Congo for some time as I had Pfizer

AstraZeneca still remains the most widely accepted vaccine, but more approvals will come for this and Pfizer.



Obviously getting the Australian manufactured AZ recognised as the equivalent to the European AZ is the next step.

Helpful broad brush graphs, Cheers.

But the operable words as you’ve recognised are: “Obviously getting the Australian manufactured AZ recognised as the equivalent to the European AZ is the next step.”